mike yates said on the 24-Nov-2010 at 15:10
Last pilot off the flight deck, Flt Cmdr James Blackmore, said the Harrier was a fantastic plane to fly, very easy, and he and other Harrier pilots were gutted at the decision to scrap them at this time. The ships captain said Ark Royal was at its peak of efficiency. Cpt Jerry Kidd says he understands the cuts have to be made, but no one wants to see a ship like this decommissioned early. One senior officer described scrapping both Ark Royal and Harrier at this time was utter madness and many Naval Admirals are voicing their concerns about ability of defending the Falklands without them. Ministers though said that they could be defended by "other means". Well thats o.k. then....innit...
This decision has GOT to be reversed.The Harrier has been the only successfull Vstol aircraft ever to be produced. Yanks can`t do it right, Russians can`t do it right, Chinese haven`t got a hope in hell of getting it right....BUT WE DID..to the envy of the world. We must keep 1 carrier and at least 20 Harriers to fly off it, until H.M Q E gets built and those F35`s learn to fly up and down. Can no one in the aviation press get these people see sense
before its too late.
Union Jack said on the 24-Nov-2010 at 20:00
This is most definetly without a shadow of a doubt the most lamentable day in the history of the fleet air arm. The nation which created the aircraft carrier and proved it's worth has now been stripped of this capability ninety plus years later. I belived the previous government went too far when they axed the Sea Harrier FA2. Now this "Government" has taken leave of the few wits that it had and has just thrown away a capability that many nations envied. It totaly beggars belief that this asset can be thrown away just like that! A government must be reminded that it's first duty is defence of the nation, to save and protect the lives of its citizens. British standing in the world has now shrunk due to the endless defence cuts. The name Ark Royal has for generations meant two things to many nations, THE UNITED KINGDOM AND THE ROYAL NAVY. Both will be the poorer for this loss. This cannot be allowed to happen. please stop this maddness before its too late.FLY NAVY.
Bob said on the 24-Nov-2010 at 20:59
Well look on the bright side, we can spend more money on international aid to deserving despots who rip off us and the people it is ment for, we can ensure that all the illegals coming to the UK get a great deal, though the air shows will not be as good. We can give the Indian navy a great deal on an aircraft carrier and the Harriers that go with it.
You must remeber no one in the world is out to give us a hard time so we do not need these assets!!!!
If Cameron had a "pair" he might just wake up and see that he has screwed up big time and when it hits the fan, as it surley will, we are going to be caught with our pants well and truly down.
Gary said on the 24-Nov-2010 at 22:04
I am not an Englishman, but have been living in England now for the last 8 years and even I am greatly sad to see yet another era end in the Royal Navys history.How very heart breaking to know that we will not be seeing the harrier force operating again. I hope this is a terrible nightmare Im having!!!!!!!!!
mike yates said on the 25-Nov-2010 at 00:38
I AM an Englishman and have always been proud to be one, but I have seen the demise of great things that have come from this small country and my pride is rapidly disappearing. We no longer have much industry, in anything really, so anything that we innovate is lost to other countries, I mean we don`t even have a national car industry, though we build amongst the best cars in the world, for "Foreign" countries.
Germany, France Italy etc. have more than one national car company in each country, and their drivers are PROUD to drive them. We do not have this pride because our car industry was allowed to be sold off instead of nationalised.
The same now is happening to our aircraft and shipbuilding industries.We want to be proud of our planes and ships, to have the best....If the Government has a problem with Bae, and others, with cost and time slippage, in both of these industries, they should take over the manufacturing part of them. We should be building MORE ships not less. We should be building more aircraft, not less. The government KNOW they are needed and keeping slow rate production has to be better than the redundancies that will have to be seen. The Americans seem to be able to do this
over time, why couldn`t we. Give us back our pride Cameron..and our Navy and our RAF. We should be buying British - flying British, and British should be the best.....
Martin Regnard said on the 25-Nov-2010 at 00:53
As a Brit living in the USA, I am sad that the Bristish Harrier is almost gone. I agree that the decision should be reversed as it will be 'open house' for Argentina if it is not. This would be a slap in the face for the brave guys and their families who gave their lives to defend the Falklands. What an insult by the British Government!! Shame on you David Cameron!!
Ian Goldstraw said on the 25-Nov-2010 at 13:00
A sad day for both the RAF & RN. No Harriers, and no carrier, end of another era.
Any body going to be watching out what MAY happen in the South Atlantic once they're out of service?
Gary said on the 25-Nov-2010 at 20:56
Dear Mike Yates
Thanks for those intelligent thoughts of yours regarding the axing of ARK ROYAL and her Harriers.
I fully agree with you 110% that this country should go back to buying British, building British, flying British etc., But it looks as if we are living in a new era where money is the most fearsome and potent weapon the world has ever seen.
Another thought that came to mind was that, just when you thought labour could not do ANY more damage to this wonderful and beautiful country, along comes David Cameron and his mob and delivers the final blow. God Bless all the Men and woman who are keeping this country and its people safe on such a tight budget.
mike yates said on the 25-Nov-2010 at 23:07
Gary, you are right of course...about the armed personnel...and the money. I just despair when I know they are working to a tight budget and they should NOT be. If they are asked to do this job,by this government then give `em the best tools to do it with. Its this make do and mend attitude that gets us into trouble every time, everything done on the cheap. If we can`t afford the tools we can`t
afford to do the job. They can find the money, its there, just not in the right place..
Richard Samwell. said on the 29-Nov-2010 at 20:31
Two things have come to my attention of late.
(Within the last week) that is.
1 Our Wonderful 'Prime Minister' has decided to spend £2 Million of 'Our' Taxpayers Money to
determine ''How Happy And Contented We All Are. (Make of that what you will).
2. I read in a National Newspaper last week,
that the M.O.D. have decided to ban all
''Christmas Parties for All our Armed Forces.
Especially those Posted Overseas''.
According to the Minister for development in the m.o.d this is help recoup the £38 Billion in lost revenue.
Just a couple of snippets to be carrying on with.