By: Steve T
- 15th April 2009 at 03:33Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Somewhere I'm sure I've got a scan of the Proctor Mk.6 hulk when it was at either Seneca Airfield (while with Jack Arnold) or Mt.Hope (while with Thomson/Rubin/IVA). If not...I've got old prints and can scan them anyway. Either way, hope to get a pic onto here soon. In fact I owe one of the forumites here a pic of that hulk. It's sad how far CF-EHF had deteriorated by the time it got into a historically-centred collection. Hope it is someday restored/reincarnated...
By: mike currill
- 15th April 2009 at 08:06Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I remember seeing various Procters at Kidlington back in the days whhen airworthy examples were more common than they are now. Seems that most of the airworthy examples are in Oz or NZ which leads me to believe their climate is more conducive to the long life of wooden airframes whilst ours is pretty hard on them.
By: Brian Doherty
- 18th April 2009 at 22:40Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Well - there's restorations - and restorations - is there a full set of production drawings anywhere and a good joiners shop, whilst someone makes the castings to produce an engine. Its got to be faster than anything else - the name Gunga Din springs to mind!
By: Steve T
- 19th April 2009 at 02:38Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Brian--
I doubt EHF will be restored any time soon...these photos were taken between 19 and 26 years ago, the Proctor was disassembled afterward and has been in storage in pieces for well over a decade. The collection to which it belongs, also, is famously private, much more so than when they were based at Mt.Hope twenty years ago.
By: Steve T
- 19th April 2009 at 02:47Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
For interest's sake, here's another aircraft from the same collection as the Proctor, seen making one of its very few public appearances in that ownership during a car show at the 1990 Canadian National Exhibition at Toronto. Miles M2H Hawk Major C-FAUV, ex-Cliff Glenister. (The Harvard in the background belonged to IVA also and was ex-Jack Arnold, same as the Proctor hulk).
By: avion ancien
- 19th April 2009 at 08:13Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Proctor Mk. IV, NP294, which apparently served as a children's plaything in a field at Andover Down c. 1963 (q.v. W&R 2nd ed.). I afraid that I can't credit the image as I can't remember how and from where I acquired it.
By: Consul
- 19th April 2009 at 10:15Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Proctor Mk. IV, NP294, which apparently served as a children's plaything in a field at Andover Down c. 1963 (q.v. W&R 2nd ed.). I afraid that I can't credit the image as I can't remember how and from where I acquired it.
I have an original print of this photograph obtained in the 1970s from the copyright holder. It is copyright N.A.P.S. photographic service (i.e. Northern Aircraft Preservation Society) and originals were printed by Mr I.V.Jones of Stretford, Lancashire. These details were stamped on the reverse of the officially produced copies that were released at that time. (I obtained my copy from the NAPS but I can't verify the identity of the individual photographer.)
The aircraft survives of course at East Kirkby and is an interesting examples as it was never civilianised and is still receiving TLC being gradually restored in static condition within a shed at that site alongside a Hampden project.
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By: Atcham Tower - 26th March 2009 at 18:55 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
G-AIEH at Baginton. NP215 and NP 335 derelict at Exeter 26/8/60. G-AHBA at Speke. OO-ADS at Eastleigh 8/60. NP342 Squires Gate.
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By: Archer - 26th March 2009 at 20:05 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Danish Technical Museum in Helsingor, 2009.
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By: Rlangham - 14th April 2009 at 17:49 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Taken at Stafford today
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By: Steve T - 15th April 2009 at 03:33 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Somewhere I'm sure I've got a scan of the Proctor Mk.6 hulk when it was at either Seneca Airfield (while with Jack Arnold) or Mt.Hope (while with Thomson/Rubin/IVA). If not...I've got old prints and can scan them anyway. Either way, hope to get a pic onto here soon. In fact I owe one of the forumites here a pic of that hulk. It's sad how far CF-EHF had deteriorated by the time it got into a historically-centred collection. Hope it is someday restored/reincarnated...
S.
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By: mike currill - 15th April 2009 at 08:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I remember seeing various Procters at Kidlington back in the days whhen airworthy examples were more common than they are now. Seems that most of the airworthy examples are in Oz or NZ which leads me to believe their climate is more conducive to the long life of wooden airframes whilst ours is pretty hard on them.
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By: Steve T - 18th April 2009 at 22:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Here we are...two of the several shots I took back in the day of Proctor 6 CF-EHF...or what was left of it by then...
At Jack Arnold's hangar, Seneca airfield, near York, Ontario, ca.1983...
At International Vintage Aircraft, Mt.Hope, Ontario, ca.1990...
S.
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By: Brian Doherty - 18th April 2009 at 22:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Well - there's restorations - and restorations - is there a full set of production drawings anywhere and a good joiners shop, whilst someone makes the castings to produce an engine. Its got to be faster than anything else - the name Gunga Din springs to mind!
Best of luck - Brian.
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By: Steve T - 19th April 2009 at 02:38 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Brian--
I doubt EHF will be restored any time soon...these photos were taken between 19 and 26 years ago, the Proctor was disassembled afterward and has been in storage in pieces for well over a decade. The collection to which it belongs, also, is famously private, much more so than when they were based at Mt.Hope twenty years ago.
S.
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By: Steve T - 19th April 2009 at 02:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
For interest's sake, here's another aircraft from the same collection as the Proctor, seen making one of its very few public appearances in that ownership during a car show at the 1990 Canadian National Exhibition at Toronto. Miles M2H Hawk Major C-FAUV, ex-Cliff Glenister. (The Harvard in the background belonged to IVA also and was ex-Jack Arnold, same as the Proctor hulk).
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By: avion ancien - 19th April 2009 at 08:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Proctor Mk. IV, NP294, which apparently served as a children's plaything in a field at Andover Down c. 1963 (q.v. W&R 2nd ed.). I afraid that I can't credit the image as I can't remember how and from where I acquired it.
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By: Consul - 19th April 2009 at 10:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I have an original print of this photograph obtained in the 1970s from the copyright holder. It is copyright N.A.P.S. photographic service (i.e. Northern Aircraft Preservation Society) and originals were printed by Mr I.V.Jones of Stretford, Lancashire. These details were stamped on the reverse of the officially produced copies that were released at that time. (I obtained my copy from the NAPS but I can't verify the identity of the individual photographer.)
The aircraft survives of course at East Kirkby and is an interesting examples as it was never civilianised and is still receiving TLC being gradually restored in static condition within a shed at that site alongside a Hampden project.
Tim
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By: Banupa - 21st September 2011 at 20:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Am I too late?
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By: groundhugger - 24th September 2011 at 16:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Proctor G-ANZJ
Photographed at Staverton early 60's