By: PMN1
- 25th September 2009 at 11:44Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I'd like to get my hands on that book about the VC-10. anymore details like ISBN and author title price publisher etc? I never knew the VC-10 was considered for so many roles. I know it's a good aircraft and is faster than normal passenger jets but the book seems to imply it was thought of using the VC-10 for every role going. Stick a big radar a missiles and it could be a fighter lol
Air Defence VC-10 'Red Barrell' - carrying up to 18 CF-299 missiles according to the drawing and info on it.........
The US had a similar idea for the C-135 called Project Aerie with upto 24 AAN-M-10 Eagle missiles
The thing that is interesting to me about the S-67 is that it was also a troop transport rather than a dedicated attack helicopter like the Cobra or Apache. Imagine S-67s and Apaches working side-by-side.
The thing that is interesting to me about the S-67 is that it was also a troop transport rather than a dedicated attack helicopter like the Cobra or Apache. Imagine S-67s and Apaches working side-by-side.
Costantly amazed that S67 was allowed to wither and die.
Sure a crash at an airshow is bad PR (and I hope it goes without saying; a tragedy for friends and family of the deceased) but other aircraft have suffered such bad PR and the programme has continued.
ON PAPER the S67 seems to have offered a unique combination (well unique in the West anyway) of attributes and just not had any friends.
By: slipperysam
- 2nd October 2009 at 11:44Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Costantly amazed that S67 was allowed to wither and die.
Sure a crash at an airshow is bad PR (and I hope it goes without saying; a tragedy for friends and family of the deceased) but other aircraft have suffered such bad PR and the programme has continued.
ON PAPER the S67 seems to have offered a unique combination (well unique in the West anyway) of attributes and just not had any friends.
It was essentially the equivilent of the Mi-24 Hind... and one really does wonder why such a wonderful looking machine never went ahead.
Link to a Sikorsky demo video (complete with funky 70s music).
Very pixelated but worth a watch...
By: F35b
- 17th November 2009 at 15:08Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Here's the Gripen carrying lots of Bombs. Any ideas on what type/weight they are. For being a 1 engine plane the Gripen sure can carry a lot of bomb load.
Here is a CGI for the Gripen in the indian fighter comptetition carrying lots of bombs.
Any idea's on what this Gripen is carrying. I'm seeing a maverick(presumably 2), 2 wingtip missiles either sidewinder or IRIS-T and another?
Again another CGI, i doubt this would even take off with such a load!
And just cause i like both planes a Gripen taking fuel from an RAF VC-10. It will be so sad when these planes retire.
By: Sign
- 17th November 2009 at 17:34Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Here's the Gripen carrying lots of Bombs. Any ideas on what type/weight they are. For being a 1 engine plane the Gripen sure can carry a lot of bomb load.
Here is a CGI for the Gripen in the indian fighter comptetition carrying lots of bombs.
Any idea's on what this Gripen is carrying. I'm seeing a maverick(presumably 2), 2 wingtip missiles either sidewinder or IRIS-T and another?
Again another CGI, i doubt this would even take off with such a load!
And just cause i like both planes a Gripen taking fuel from an RAF VC-10. It will be so sad when these planes retire.
the empty weight 7.1 tons (the NG of the renditions) and maximum takeoff at 16.5 tons so...just count backwards.
The DK would probably takeoff, thou it has been offered to danmark..
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By: Anonymous
- 18th November 2009 at 19:04Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
By: F35b
- 20th November 2009 at 12:12Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Does anyone else think the B-52 in the picture up a few posts looks a bit different round the cockpit area? At first i didn't regognise it. Maybe just the camera angle or the paint job.
Here's another one.
B-52 dropping stuff
B-52 doors open, Not sure what the missiles under wing are
By: F35b
- 20th November 2009 at 15:32Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
^^^
AGM 142 Popeye Missile
Does the BUFF also fit these in it's weapons bay? Does anyone have a picture of the inside of the B-52's weapons bay. With or withour weapons in it. A picture with it stacked with bombs would be most entertaining though.
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By: PMN1 - 25th September 2009 at 11:44 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Air Defence VC-10 'Red Barrell' - carrying up to 18 CF-299 missiles according to the drawing and info on it.........
The US had a similar idea for the C-135 called Project Aerie with upto 24 AAN-M-10 Eagle missiles
http://warships1discussionboards.yuku.com/topic/9260
The book itself is easier bought direct from Chris Gibson himself.
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5553.0/highlight,pofflers.html
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By: sferrin - 25th September 2009 at 13:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
S-67 Blackhawk (the first one) with Sparrow.
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By: Buddha - 25th September 2009 at 16:49 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
S-67 Blackhawk with Sparrow
Do have a source for this images and the it's story story?
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By: sferrin - 25th September 2009 at 17:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1972/1972%20-%202621.html
The thing that is interesting to me about the S-67 is that it was also a troop transport rather than a dedicated attack helicopter like the Cobra or Apache. Imagine S-67s and Apaches working side-by-side.
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By: Al. - 26th September 2009 at 14:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Costantly amazed that S67 was allowed to wither and die.
Sure a crash at an airshow is bad PR (and I hope it goes without saying; a tragedy for friends and family of the deceased) but other aircraft have suffered such bad PR and the programme has continued.
ON PAPER the S67 seems to have offered a unique combination (well unique in the West anyway) of attributes and just not had any friends.
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By: roberto_yeager - 1st October 2009 at 12:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
F-18 and Brimstone from the Boeing web...
1Saludo
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By: slipperysam - 2nd October 2009 at 11:44 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
It was essentially the equivilent of the Mi-24 Hind... and one really does wonder why such a wonderful looking machine never went ahead.
Link to a Sikorsky demo video (complete with funky 70s music).
Very pixelated but worth a watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgs5npH_XUo&feature=related
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By: roberto_yeager - 29th October 2009 at 09:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
A beautiful picture.
1Saludo
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By: fulcrum-aholic - 6th November 2009 at 04:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A-1E_1SOS_PavePat_1968.jpg
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By: roberto_yeager - 6th November 2009 at 07:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Oh!!!
A Big punch!!!
1Saludo
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By: Pioneer - 7th November 2009 at 13:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
[QUOTE=PMN1;1464133]
The US had a similar idea for the C-135 called Project Aerie with upto 24 AAN-M-10 Eagle missiles [QUOTE]
Would kill for an artist work or 3-view drawing of this!
I've been looking for years with no luck:confused:
Regards
Pioneer
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By: F35b - 17th November 2009 at 15:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Here's the Gripen carrying lots of Bombs. Any ideas on what type/weight they are. For being a 1 engine plane the Gripen sure can carry a lot of bomb load.
Here is a CGI for the Gripen in the indian fighter comptetition carrying lots of bombs.
Any idea's on what this Gripen is carrying. I'm seeing a maverick(presumably 2), 2 wingtip missiles either sidewinder or IRIS-T and another?
Again another CGI, i doubt this would even take off with such a load!
And just cause i like both planes a Gripen taking fuel from an RAF VC-10. It will be so sad when these planes retire.
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By: Sign - 17th November 2009 at 17:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
the india proposal
Python 5, and Total of 8x GBU-12 LGBs on Twin Store Carriers fitted to Stations 2 and 5 (L&R), plus 2x 300 US gallon Fuel Drop tanks on Station 3 (L&R), Station 4 fitted with Laser Designator Pod, Station 5C empty:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_(missile)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-12_Paveway_II
the big missile is the RB-15F and is an anti-ship missile.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBS-15
the other stuff, i have no idea?
the empty weight 7.1 tons (the NG of the renditions) and maximum takeoff at 16.5 tons so...just count backwards.
The DK would probably takeoff, thou it has been offered to danmark..
By: Anonymous - 18th November 2009 at 19:04 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
NICE!
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By: roberto_yeager - 19th November 2009 at 09:38 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
1Saludo
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By: sferrin - 19th November 2009 at 13:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
4 Skybolts FTW! Too bad it got cancelled because "it don't work" on the very day it flew a successful test flight. :(
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By: MadRat - 20th November 2009 at 05:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Skybolt was killed by treatise. Imagine the destabilizing force of such a missile in that time period.
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By: F35b - 20th November 2009 at 12:12 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Does anyone else think the B-52 in the picture up a few posts looks a bit different round the cockpit area? At first i didn't regognise it. Maybe just the camera angle or the paint job.
Here's another one.
B-52 dropping stuff
B-52 doors open, Not sure what the missiles under wing are
And idea on these weapons?
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By: Austin - 20th November 2009 at 12:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
^^^
AGM 142 Popeye Missile
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By: F35b - 20th November 2009 at 15:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Does the BUFF also fit these in it's weapons bay? Does anyone have a picture of the inside of the B-52's weapons bay. With or withour weapons in it. A picture with it stacked with bombs would be most entertaining though.