Antonov down

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Seems to have 'slipped under the radar'

http://www.thestar.co.za/plane-crashes-into-homes-19-dead-1.1045449

Looks more like an An12 to me.:( RIP alcon.

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That is one hell of a clip:( A very sad end indeed.

Definitely an An12. I know the company well. I have nothing good to say about them, so I won't say anything. RIP to the poor victims.

PS If any aspiring young pilot is ever tempted to work there, pm me first.

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Status: Preliminary
Date: 21 MAR 2011
Time: 15:30
Type: Antonov 12BP
Operator: Trans Air Congo
Registration: TN-AGK ?
C/n / msn: 402006
First flight: 1963
Crew: Fatalities: 4 / Occupants: 4
Passengers: Fatalities: 5 / Occupants: 5
Total: Fatalities: 9 / Occupants: 9
Ground casualties: Fatalities: 14
Airplane damage: Written off
Airplane fate: Written off (damaged beyond repair)
Location: near Pointe Noire Airport (PNR) (Congo) show on map
Phase: Approach (APR)
Nature: Cargo
Departure airport: Brazzaville-Maya Maya Airport (BZV) (BZV/FCBB), Congo
Destination airport: Pointe Noire Airport (PNR) (PNR/FCPP), Congo
Narrative:
An Antonov 12 cargo plane was destroyed when it crashed in the Mvoumvou residential area of Pointe-Noire, Congo. The airplane was approaching runway 17 when it came down. It struck several houses and burst into flames.
AFP quoted a local official who reported that there were four crew members and five passengers on the plane. A spokesman of the Russian embassy in Brazzaville reported that three crew members were Russians. The copilot was a citizen of Kazakhstan.
Trans Air Congo supposedly owns one An-12 plane, registered TN-AGK.

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First flight: 1963

For a Soviet built aircraft that would make it absolutely prehistoric - they probably found it in a scrapyard and pulled it out with a bulldozer...

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The video in that first AV Herald article is absolutely chilling!

Looks like a text book aerodynamic roll over. No 3 + 4 engines out, No 1 + 2 on full power. Left wing has more lift, hence the right hand roll.
Too slow, and too low to do anything about it. RIP :(

Some say the An12 cannot be landed with two engines out on one side. The gear and flaps make it nigh on impossible to control in that situation.

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Some say the An12 cannot be landed with two engines out on one side. The gear and flaps make it nigh on impossible to control in that situation.

And the C-130, ever have this problem?

Sandy, you could be right on that score. #3 appeared feathered, but #4 didn't appear so, which would have made things worse. With the Antonov's small fin, control would have been almost impossible.

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:O its not very of often if at all you see the last moment of an aircraft before a crash, and that video just shocked the hell out of me, the speed to rolled over and dived was seconds.

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:O its not very of often if at all you see the last moment of an aircraft before a crash, and that video just shocked the hell out of me, the speed to rolled over and dived was seconds.

When at low level and going down, the instinct is to pull the stick bank.....not good when inverted. What gets me is that the plane touched down right side up going by the virtually complete tail and cockpit shots.

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virtually complete cockpit? where? I see only fragments of wing and a the complete tail

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My error

virtually complete cockpit? where? I see only fragments of wing and a the complete tail

Yes you're right. I looked at several youtube clips and got that one mixed in. Sorry. Still, how the hell did the tail section end up virtually undamaged?

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Judging by the angle the video shows the plane plummeting at, I'd hedge a bet on the forward fuselage taking most of the impact and the inertia whipping the tail round into the position you see it in.