Chinese Version of E-2

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well picture quality is not that good.. you've been warned:D

Could this be a side proof of China got reliable catapult technology now?:cool:

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well picture quality is not that good.. you've been warned:D

Could this be a side proof of China got reliable catapult technology now?:cool:

With the lack of dihedral of the horizontal stabilizer and larger radome pylon,it looks like the Yak-44E,or a version of it.Be great to see that project finally see the light of day.

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wonder what radar this thing carry.
Radom is too thin to carry a version off KJ-2000.

AN/APY-9 from Hawkeye-D?

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With the lack of dihedral of the horizontal stabilizer and larger radome pylon,it looks like the Yak-44E,or a version of it.Be great to see that project finally see the light of day.

yak-44E had 2 instead of 4 Vertical fins.

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Oh god that Anhedral wing, don't tell me they really moded a Y-7.

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Wind tunnel model of Yak-44E......

http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/moscow_2009_files/day03_017.jpg

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But the Varyag remains a STOBAR carrier, how can this thing operate from it?

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But the Varyag remains a STOBAR carrier, how can this thing operate from it?

1 -- I believe E-2 was said to be capable of taking off on a STOBAR carrier when northrop were showing it off for the indians. It's not impossible this Sino-E-2 can as well.
2, and more likely -- it isn't designed to operate from the Varyag? ;)

It's all a question of engine power, really. In its later iterations with D-27 propfans, the Yak-44 would probably have been ski-jump capable and there is a newer Beriev project for a carrier-based AEW platform which is fitted with 4 (rather than just two) smaller turboprops. Let's see what powers this thing, then we might be able to make deductions about the state of China's catapult programme.

As Blitzo says, even the basic E-2 is STOBAR capable with some performance penalties (AFAIK this was even tested with a modest ski-jump angle at one point in the past).

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yak-44E had 2 instead of 4 Vertical fins.

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Oh god that Anhedral wing, don't tell me they really moded a Y-7.

Very likely:D

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If this is for the carrier it is a very interesting development, we already know they have purchased Russian AEW helicopters and have their own in development. It could be that this is for a future carrier fitted out as a CATOBAR type or maybe they are going to fit a waist catapult to Varyag. If not as has been suggested it could run off the ramp but I wonder if it would be very compromised performance wise in that respect.

Finally if it is for a future CATOBAR carrier maybe they plan to do touch and goes on the Varyag in the meantime.

If not as has been suggested it could run off the ramp but I wonder if it would be very compromised performance wise in that respect.

Compromised relative to what though? For the PLAN, the only short-term alternative is rotary wing so I doubt they're worried even if performance losses in STOBAR operations are substantial ;)

I also struggle to see a non-naval mission for this, the land-based gap-filler role is already taken by the KJ-200, same with the low-cost export niche.

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Let's not forget that the Sukhoi Su-25UTG, with modest TWR, manages to take off from Kuznetsov.

As for Chinese carriers - how about this one??

It's already operational......:rolleyes:

http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/misc_pics/china carrier_01.jpg

OK - so I doctored it a bit.....

http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/misc_pics/china carrier_02.jpg

It's actually in an amusement park in Shanghai....

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You had me wondering there Ken... specially the big windows!
But still an impressive structure, even if it is concrete!

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I cant help but LOL when I remember that at first when these pictures appeared on the net some chinese posters vehemently claimed it was built as a mockup for practising carrier landings and crew training!:D

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I cant help but LOL when I remember that at first when these pictures appeared on the net some chinese posters vehemently claimed it was built as a mockup for practising carrier landings and crew training!:D

That was another one:cool:

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That was another one:cool:

I wasnt talking about the one in Wuhan..there were comments about this very one.;)

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Very likely:D

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new... everything. If they still try to call it an Y-7 Derivative then those Commies are shameless!

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from what I gathered, 14th and 38th Institute is in competition again with the radar.
airplane platform is the nailed down as a single supplier from Shangxi.

AESA rotating array.

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Well,I guess if they did mod an Y-7 it'd be no worse then Russia modding an An-72 to make the An-71,which I believe was intended for naval use.

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wow, they would copy such a crappy design. Hopefully they also reverse engineer the new 8 blade props too.....they add a lot of excitement and danger to a relatively benign airframe

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Well,I guess if they did mod an Y-7 it'd be no worse then Russia modding an An-72 to make the An-71,which I believe was intended for naval use.

It was never 'intended' for naval use.

It was put forward as a possible solution for a carrier-capable AWACS, but was too heavy - which is why Yakovlev designed the Yak-44E.

The An-71 was a purely land-based design....

http://www.flankerman.fsnet.co.uk/an-71_modl_files/an-71_real01.jpg

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wow, they would copy such a crappy design.

You mean E-2?