Boeing vs Eurofighter vs Lockheed for KFX

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Boeing
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/assets_c/2011/10/Boeing%20KF-X%20crop-thumb-560x251-144772.jpg

Lockheed
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/assets_c/2011/10/KFX%20poster%20crop-thumb-560x368-143633.jpg

Eurofighter
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2011/10/21/KFX%20Eurofighter%20vision.jpg

i thought the Koreans wanted to go on their own!?

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i thought the Koreans wanted to go on their own!?

No wonder "Koreans wanted to go on their own!"!!!

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Boring Boring !!! not a lot of design or innovation in that little lot !!! all a bit 1990's

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Boring Boring !!! not a lot of design or innovation in that little lot !!! all a bit 1990's

Design and innovation usually goes deeper than external appearances. ;)

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Design and innovation usually goes deeper than external appearances. ;)

and this is from a man who yells "carbon copy rip-off" at the first sighting of J-15.

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and this is from a man who yells "carbon copy rip-off" at the first sighting of J-15.

Oh sweet jesus. I never used the term carbon copy actually, check again.

What I called it, was a rip-off. Which it is. Calling the J-15 an example of Chinese "innovation" would be pathetic.

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Lockheed
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/assets_c/2011/10/KFX%20poster%20crop-thumb-560x368-143633.jpg

This is not from Lockheed. It's a Korean one.

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They all look boring as bat****. Where my canards at?

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Oh sweet jesus. I never used the term carbon copy actually, check again.

What I called it, was a rip-off. Which it is. Calling the J-15 an example of Chinese "innovation" would be pathetic.

Oh sweet buddha., Who said " J-15 an example of Chinese "innovation" "?

you? not me, certainly I didn't say that. so quit make up things to attack.

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Hence the "would be part".

Sweet Krishna.

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Hence the "would be part".

Sweet Krishna.

Make things up, then attack it. Make it look as if someelse first said it.

good combo. eh?

gigs is up.

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You had an issue with my post regarding innovation and how it is more than outside form...supposedly because of my attitude in the J-15/whatever thread, and how that is hypocritical. I replied that the J-15 was a **** poor example of innovation. Who is the one attacking now?

This thread had nothing to do with the J-15 btw, well done.

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You had an issue with my post regarding innovation and how it is more than outside form...supposedly because of my attitude in the J-15/whatever thread, and how that is hypocritical. I replied that the J-15 was a **** poor example of innovation. Who is the one attacking now?

This thread had nothing to do with the J-15 btw, well done.

weren't you the ones that said in other thread because airframe/external moldline is the same so it;s a rip-off, no matter what the details are you have to put that "rip-off" sticker on so to make it look like some cheap knock-off pirated iphone coming from dongguang way inferior than the original?

so why the nuanced utterances all of the sudden and all this talk about "Design and innovation usually goes deeper than external appearances".

obviously in this thread you understand making an airplane is not only glossy airplane porn.

forgive me to find that pretty hypocritical and amusing.

oh, don't try this again, I don;t intend to bring J-15 in here. it's only for illustrating purposes, so don't muddle the issue here. :)

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They all look boring as bat****. Where my canards at?
Canards!!.....stealth no no.

Seems like only China is willing to make exciting as well as stealthy fighters. :cool:

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Course canards aren't the only way to be interesting, I brought it up cos of this KF-X artwork floating around from a while back...

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/830/kfx201.jpg

@ J-20: well they're going to need foreign engines at least, prolly growth F414 or EJ200. Personally I would've thought a partnership with SAAB would be ideal; course maybe (hopefully) they're already spoken for *cough* India AMCA *cough*.

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This is not from Lockheed. It's a Korean one.

Flight global says its Lockheed. but hey, like the T-50, its Korean.. but its also Lockheed :diablo:

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Course canards aren't the only way to be interesting, I brought it up cos of this KF-X artwork floating around from a while back...

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/830/kfx201.jpg

@ J-20: well they're going to need foreign engines at least, prolly growth F414 or EJ200. Personally I would've thought a partnership with SAAB would be ideal; course maybe (hopefully) they're already spoken for *cough* India AMCA *cough*.

that's a J-20 concept fan art, not KFX. see the PLAAF insig?

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Flight global says its Lockheed. but hey, like the T-50, its Korean.. but its also Lockheed :diablo:

Flight got it wrong in this case.

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No weapon bays ?

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No weapon bays ?

C103은 현재 LIG Nex1에서 개발중인 한국형 AESA(Active Electronically Scanned Array) 레이더가 탑재되며, 시제기 완성 후 차후 개량을 거쳐 동체 중앙에 AMRAAM(Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile)급 중거리 공대공 미사일 4발 또는 중거리 공대공 미사일 2발과 1,000 파운드급 JDAM(Joint Direct Attack Munition)을 탑재할 수 있는 IWB(Internal Weapon Bay)를 가질 예정이다.

KF-X C103 is planned to have a Korean AESA being developed by LIG Nex 1 and after the prototype is finished it will have Internal Weapons Bays carrying 4 AMRAAM class medium range air to air missiles or 2 medium range air to air missles and 2 1000 pound JDAMs.