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By: 1st November 2011 at 08:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I think the reason for teaching it is to giver a basic understanding of the effects of wind on speed and track, nothing more.
Once having gone through the motions to test standard it can effectively be confined to the flight bag.
Most now set off on the calculated heading, check the track on the gps once stabilised, correct until track and course required coincide and then fly that heading.
Moggy
By: 1st November 2011 at 10:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I took the slide section out and use it as a ruler/straight edge at work. Had it for years now and is excellent in its new role.
By: 2nd November 2011 at 23:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Ah yes, but can you still nav with a plog, compass and watch? Or has that skill waned too?
By: 3rd November 2011 at 04:11 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-In a J3 Cub ( for instance ) the differences between rectified airspeed and true airspeed is a complete nonsense, pretty much everything happens at 65 MPH, and though drift is an issue up to a point, if one navigates by very dense ground features ( as in most of the UK) you automatically compensate for drift as you pass from one waypoint to the next.
I happen to have used my CPU-26A/P yesterday in a Cub with a student... related to some wind calculations and deciding whether or not I had the fuel to make an extra stop before returning to the home airfield...
I teach students both how to use the GPS, and how to do things "old school" ways so that they are not dependent on the GPS in an emergency.
Ryan
By: 16th November 2011 at 20:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-At the FTO where I work we teach them to navigate with a plog and heading/time, I seriously doubt that they work it out with a whiz wheel though, the've got Excel for that now! In the air for a diversion there's a small handy gadget which is made by a Dutch guy especially for these situations (This one) and all the students use these things. Even though we've got a similar situation as in the UK (dense ground features) students still manage to get lost. The training aircraft don't have GPS so they really need their navigating skills. And I still feel that they need something to fall back on when the electronic gadgets die on them.
By: 19th November 2011 at 22:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-In over thirty years of VFR flying for a living (Remote area op's as well) I only used a small wizz wheel pre GPS for groundspeed checks.
By: 20th November 2011 at 04:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I set off on a 4-landing 6 hour cross country in a 172 earlier this year.
My GPS destroyed itself halfway through the first leg.
Back to basic nav skills for the rest of the trip - and for the return home the next day.
Would you take the lifeboats off an ocean liner if they had not been used for 15 years?
Always useful for Plan B.
By: 27th November 2011 at 07:11 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Work out the max drift, use the clock to calculate drift (i.e. if 30 degrees off, half the clock face=half max drift etc and you're sorted. Works for headwinds/tailwinds also. Workable method and as old as the hills.
I haven't used the whizz wheel since 1992
By: 28th November 2011 at 10:55 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Untouched for 15 years- can I say 'good-riddance' to my Whiz-Wheel?
You might as well, I don't think that you can get the batteries for them anymore:D
exmpa
By: 28th November 2011 at 18:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Mine was steam powered.
The supply was direct from my ears ;)
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By: Propstrike - 31st October 2011 at 21:04
15 years of vintage tail-dragging has yet to prompt me to dust off my whiz-wheel flight calculator, despite various flights across France and into Switzerland, yet the infernal thing remains on the PPL syllabus and still seems to be promoted as an essential part of flight planning.
I have almost entirely forgotten how to use it, and even at my most 'competent' found it effectively unusable in the air, unless lookout was abandoned for about 4 minutes. I seem to recall a wind dot went somewhere.
Under the cosh of harmonised regulations, there seems to be two disparate stands of flying emerging, either 'big-time' ATPL, Instrument rating, etc, or else tending to simple grass roots LAA types, for day VFR use, often merging into the microlight classification.
In a J3 Cub ( for instance ) the differences between rectified airspeed and true airspeed is a complete nonsense, pretty much everything happens at 65 MPH, and though drift is an issue up to a point, if one navigates by very dense ground features ( as in most of the UK) you automatically compensate for drift as you pass from one waypoint to the next.
I concede if one were flying over the sea, out of sight of land, one would become a lot more focussed on such issues, but almost inevitably a GPS would be used.
Is anyone out there still using the trusty old whiz wheel 'in anger' or is it going the way of Top Hats and typewriters? And if so, why bother teaching it..