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By: 10th May 2012 at 23:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I found this analysis from a Spanish forum.. something seems wrong.. isn't the C-27J's advantage its much wider cabin? I heard Czechs and Poles unhappy with the C295?
sorry, I forgot, some pages worth reading, they`re grounded several times already(almost half a year once) due to avionic systems/software and engine malfunctions, they did not completed state trials in czech AF bcs not fulfiling requirements for Afghan deployment. Czech MOD even threatened to send back all CASAs giving supplier an ultimatum to solve problems within a short period. They also stoped sale of old An-26 in order to have backup if CASAs persist to have problems.
greetings
martinez
http://www.monitoruji.cz/ekonomika/408741/letouny-casa-nesmeji-do-afghanistanu
http://zpravy.idnes.cz/problemove-letouny-casa-se-po-ctyrech-mesicich-vraci-do-vzduchu-pwz-/domaci.aspx?c=A120202_193852_domaci_jj
http://www.natoaktual.cz/letouny-casa-opet-nesmi-do-vzduchu-jeden-mel-poruchu-f97-/na_zpravy.aspx?c=A111031_150726_na_zpravy_m00
By: 10th May 2012 at 23:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-sorry, I forgot, some pages worth reading, they`re grounded several times already(almost half a year once) due to avionic systems/software and engine malfunctions, they did not completed state trials in czech AF bcs not fulfiling requirements for Afghan deployment. Czech MOD even threatened to send back all CASAs giving supplier an ultimatum to solve problems within a short period. They also stoped sale of old An-26 in order to have backup if CASAs persist to have problems.greetings
martinezhttp://www.monitoruji.cz/ekonomika/408741/letouny-casa-nesmeji-do-afghanistanu
http://zpravy.idnes.cz/problemove-letouny-casa-se-po-ctyrech-mesicich-vraci-do-vzduchu-pwz-/domaci.aspx?c=A120202_193852_domaci_jj
http://www.natoaktual.cz/letouny-casa-opet-nesmi-do-vzduchu-jeden-mel-poruchu-f97-/na_zpravy.aspx?c=A111031_150726_na_zpravy_m00
hehe, in the end, the old, obsolete Antonovs are still the more reliable work horse. long live the Ukraine and Ukranian barbie!
By: 11th May 2012 at 00:04 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-hehe, in the end, the old, obsolete Antonovs are still the more reliable work horse. long live the Ukraine and Ukranian barbie!
dammit, we wanted to buy those czech antonovs....:)
P.S. the comparison you posted is weird indeed, I was inside cargo compartment of the C-295 and C-27 a few times, AFAIK I could not even stand upright in the C-295, when compared with C-27 which is definitely spacious. Though the C-27 flight compartment height could be lower due to stairs dividing the a/c floor area into two sections.
By: 11th May 2012 at 00:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I found this analysis from a Spanish forum.. something seems wrong.. isn't the C-27J's advantage its much wider cabin? I heard Czechs and Poles unhappy with the C295?
They have the same floor width at 2.45m, big enough for a 88x108 pallet, but the cargo box is longer is on the C295 as you data shows hence larger floor space.
What your data doesn't over is that the Max width of the C27J is 3.33m compared to 2.70 of the C295.
By: 11th May 2012 at 04:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-That comparison is a definite case of cherry picking - it's a copy/paste from an EADS brochure!
For a more objective comparison between the C-27J and C-295, read here: http://www.avia-it.com/act/rassegna_aeronautica/rassegna/Editoriali_Marzo_2012/Policy_Analysis100_future_battlefield_airlifter.pdf
... basically the C-27J is superior in high threat environments (redundancy, speed, climb rate) or if you need to carry vehicles. The C-295 is superior from a cost of ownership perspective, to carry troops, or for soft fields. For pallets, they are about even (the C-27J carries fewer pallets, but each pallet can be 35% taller)
By: 11th May 2012 at 07:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-we had some 'discussion' about the relative merits of the two planes a while back
although mainly in the context of the US Army . . .
By: 11th May 2012 at 09:11 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-sorry, I forgot, some pages worth reading, they`re grounded several times already(almost half a year once) due to avionic systems/software and engine malfunctions, they did not completed state trials in czech AF bcs not fulfiling requirements for Afghan deployment. Czech MOD even threatened to send back all CASAs giving supplier an ultimatum to solve problems within a short period. They also stoped sale of old An-26 in order to have backup if CASAs persist to have problems.greetings
martinezhttp://www.monitoruji.cz/ekonomika/408741/letouny-casa-nesmeji-do-afghanistanu
http://zpravy.idnes.cz/problemove-letouny-casa-se-po-ctyrech-mesicich-vraci-do-vzduchu-pwz-/domaci.aspx?c=A120202_193852_domaci_jj
http://www.natoaktual.cz/letouny-casa-opet-nesmi-do-vzduchu-jeden-mel-poruchu-f97-/na_zpravy.aspx?c=A111031_150726_na_zpravy_m00
Casa joined with Omnipol and that worked, because the MoD selected the plane, but the MoD threated the czech company, not Casa. The software problems supposedly are from Omnipol.
By: 11th May 2012 at 13:51 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The two were also discussed and compared in the Baby Grizzly thread as well
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By: J-20 Hotdog - 10th May 2012 at 22:47
I found this analysis from a Spanish forum.. something seems wrong.. isn't the C-27J's advantage its much wider cabin? I heard Czechs and Poles unhappy with the C295?