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It was mentioned somewhere how good it would be to recreate a Henley target tug as a project, instead of another more obvious choice. So i thought, lets start a thread to hear about / see any original parts of the type that are known to be still around.

To get the ball rolling the Norfolk & Suffolk Aviation Museum at Flixton have this wing section on display.

Rob

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Right...lets have a look at this Hawker thing before we get too excited.....Henley eh!!! nothing too difficult then....just virtually extinct..but not quite !!!!
Any one got some plans and some spare aliminium sheets ??

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Who's got the data plate????:diablo:

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Drawings still exist for the Henley....from memory do I remember seeing a picture where Hawker used a Henley to test either the Sabre or Vulture installations before the relevant airframes were ready? something to do with testing cooling? I am pretty sure there is a photograph in one christopher thomas/shores book.

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Hurricane wings.....so that’s not a problem. ;)

Anyway who’s calling it a Target-Tug.....the Henley was a Dive-Bomber! :diablo:

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Ungainly beautiful. Let's build it.

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A dive-bomber that saw service as a target tug... not as a dive-bomber! :)

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While you're searching spare parts, a little sentimental background?

Recuperating with grandparents in Bude in August 1940, managed to get airborne in a Henley, towing for the AA guns on Cleeve Camp to the north.

It was not until after our marriage in 1948 that I learned from my Wife that she had been a driver for that Battery. All those years missed!!

= Tim

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Recuperating with grandparents in Bude in August 1940, managed to get airborne in a Henley, towing for the AA guns on Cleeve Camp to the north.

Fascinating Tim, rarely get to hear about RAF Cleave, the various Flights of 1 AACU, and their Henleys that were oprated from there (& briefly Trebelzue/St Mawgan), let alone hear from someone who flew from there.:)

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[QUOTE=DaveR;1898003]Drawings still exist for the Henley

What sort of drawings I wonder? general arrangement in a book or the full monty showing each part with dimensions, radius,rivets,bolts, etc etc.

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Hi Tim,

Even the AACU at Cleave was not a quiet place in Aug 1940 for your recuperation.

Shortages of aircraft limited the number of shoots, engine failure to L3311 on the 13th, L3436 had a ground incident with a Blenheim on the same day, Ju88s bombed the aerodrome at 09.15 hrs on the 26th damaging L3282 and L3253 with shrapnel.

Later that day another single German aircraft was driven off by AA fire from the battery.

ORB pages for No.1 ACCU, D flight attached (content copyright TNA).

As to Henley drawings - quite a few of the Hurricane production sheets are also noted as Henley.

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Ross

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RAF Cleave in 1940 was dangerous indeed, as was the Henley. Pictured is L.3245 of No.1 A.A.C.U. 'D' Flight lost on the 01.04.1940 and whilst she ditched only 50 yds from the shore both Pilot Officer Matherson and LAC Robinson drowned in heavy seas. (Credit Bill Young Collection)

Whilst later on the second photo details shrapnel damage to an unidentified No.2 A.A.C.U. 'C' Flight Battle in early '41 Bill Coombes points out the damage.

Kind regards,

Tim

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Nice photos Tim. Have you ever come across anything to do with the Henley, in the way of parts etc?

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i know where one crashed into a mountain in North/West Wales. theres a few tiny bits to be found in amonst the rock and heather.

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Hello Rob,

Unfortunately not, except for some rather twisted remains protruding from a slowly recovering crater caused by the loss of a 'B' Flight Henley from Carew! (the serial number escapes me for the mo)

Cleave must have one of the longest serving connection with the Henley, No.639 Sqn struggling on with them until disbandment in '45 - the allotted Martinets failing to materialise........

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Tim

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Yes - Cleave. Had it thus, then changed it!

Was it where Goonhilly now is?

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Rumours of various aircraft "inc Henleys" bulldozed into holes at Penrhose.
Apart from the drawings for the Hurricane that were also used for the Henley, are there any ones still around that are specifically for the Henley ?.

Bob T.

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Almost Tim! The government listening post of GCHQ Morwenstow with its large dishes is right on Cleave.

The similar satellite station of Goonhilly is near the old RAF Predannack, down on the Lizard.

Some of old RAF Cleave is still explorable with concrete defence and gun positions still visible.
Would love to see other pictures you may have.

Other Tim, great images there, I've seen the one of the Henley on the beach before, but hadn't realised that it had such a sad outcome.

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Ah, GCHQ - thanks. Was looking at it on Google Map.

More diversion - Wife recalls a Sergeant from her Battery attempting a rescue from a ditched aircraft.

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Tim, do you have any recollections of what it was like to fly the Henley?

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Vaguely that it was heavier than the Hurricane - but don't hold me to that.

More concerned about the drogue being so CLOSE to my tail!!

Here's one of a chum towing in the Hurri.

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