By: dko
- 17th December 2012 at 13:47Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There is a tendency to close the search of the remains claiming that he died in the crash or the bones found are Copping!
Personally I think He is somewhere still unburied in the desert and we have to insist on demanding wide-ranging research.
By: pat1968
- 24th December 2012 at 23:53Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
hear, hear. I will pass on your wishes
i will take this opportunity to wish everyone on the forum a happy christmas and happy and prosperous new year. While you are enjoying your christmas spare a thought for all our boys and girls out in Afghanistan and around the world who won't make it home and also those poor souls and their families who have lost loved ones in the service of their country.
By: l.garey
- 25th December 2012 at 07:43Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I echo the sentiments of the last two posts: I really hope that 2013 will show some progress in getting to the truth about what happened to Dennis Copping and being able to inform his family.
My best wishes for Christmas and the new year to all who have contributed to this thread.
By: mmitch
- 9th January 2013 at 20:02Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I have received via my MP Adam Hollaway a letter from the Minister for Pension affairs that the JCC have now contacted all three of the family they have listed. One was out of the UK and had not checked his mail.
I have thanked my MP for his efforts and have expressed the hope that the M.O.D will have some firm information for the family eventually.
It is nearly a year since this sad story broke isn't it?
mmitch.
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By: Anonymous
- 9th January 2013 at 20:07Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
That is at least good to know. Further developments awaited.
I know from first-hand that Adam Holloway is quite passionate about military and veteran's affairs, having met him a while ago to discuss such matters both at the House of Commons and in Gravesend. He would be a good champion for the cause!
By: TonyT
- 12th January 2013 at 00:19Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Remember on the other thread when we were looking at stuff found and one item was a polished metal? With a hole in and I said I thought it was possibly a signal mirror but there was debate over the hole in it? Well there is a 50's or 60's RAF signal mirror on eBay and guess what
By: PeterVerney
- 12th January 2013 at 15:02Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes, standard fitting in the dinghy pack in the 50s. From memory one had to line up the object to be flashed at(!) by using the string and sighting through the hole.
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By: Anonymous
- 12th January 2013 at 15:13Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes, from memory the other side is yellow with instructions and a little diagram. But I don't recall any discussion/images of such an item being found at the P40 site?
By: TonyT
- 12th January 2013 at 15:25Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There was a metal plate with a hole in it found near the body
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By: Anonymous
- 12th January 2013 at 15:36Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Ah, yes. I remember what you are talking about. The copper disc from the a box of copper ore as I recall? There was also a key fob, I think.
Laurence Garey will remember.
I had thought you were talking about one of the purpose-made issue heliograph plates.
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By: Anonymous
- 12th January 2013 at 15:42Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
In theory, we should know more when Tim Manna gives his talk on 23 February to the Historic Flight Foundation - if, indeed, nothing has been made public by then although RAFM promise news this month.
By: l.garey
- 12th January 2013 at 17:01Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes, I do remember that observation. Pity we cannot refer back to the thread!
But Tony, it was not "near the body" for regrettably we are no closer to finding that. I still have no news about the search for Dennis Copping's remains.
By: 43-2195
- 1st February 2013 at 11:31Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Why is the first news release since the RAFM recovery of a RAF Aircraft missing in action for 70 years being made in the United States of America? Have your news media covered the RAFM recovery mission to Egypt?
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By: dko - 17th December 2012 at 13:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There is a tendency to close the search of the remains claiming that he died in the crash or the bones found are Copping!
Personally I think He is somewhere still unburied in the desert and we have to insist on demanding wide-ranging research.
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By: dko - 24th December 2012 at 09:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The sincere wishes for a Merry Christmas to the family of Dennis Copping,
hoping that soon he will be back home!
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By: pat1968 - 24th December 2012 at 23:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
hear, hear. I will pass on your wishes
i will take this opportunity to wish everyone on the forum a happy christmas and happy and prosperous new year. While you are enjoying your christmas spare a thought for all our boys and girls out in Afghanistan and around the world who won't make it home and also those poor souls and their families who have lost loved ones in the service of their country.
Best wishes Pat
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By: l.garey - 25th December 2012 at 07:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I echo the sentiments of the last two posts: I really hope that 2013 will show some progress in getting to the truth about what happened to Dennis Copping and being able to inform his family.
My best wishes for Christmas and the new year to all who have contributed to this thread.
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By: Bmused55 - 26th December 2012 at 15:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The whole story of this P40 just boils my blood.
I watched with horror as the plane was slowly picked clean by the vulchers :mad:
Then for it to go all out of hand and result in this mess.
Aaaargh!
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By: Bruce - 26th December 2012 at 17:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
It hasnt been picked clean by anybody.
It is stored at the el Alamein museum, in a container, in much the same condition as it was when first found, but dismantled.
Yes, there was a bit of damage, but it was recovered before it got too bad.
Bruce
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By: mmitch - 9th January 2013 at 20:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I have received via my MP Adam Hollaway a letter from the Minister for Pension affairs that the JCC have now contacted all three of the family they have listed. One was out of the UK and had not checked his mail.
I have thanked my MP for his efforts and have expressed the hope that the M.O.D will have some firm information for the family eventually.
It is nearly a year since this sad story broke isn't it?
mmitch.
By: Anonymous - 9th January 2013 at 20:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
That is at least good to know. Further developments awaited.
I know from first-hand that Adam Holloway is quite passionate about military and veteran's affairs, having met him a while ago to discuss such matters both at the House of Commons and in Gravesend. He would be a good champion for the cause!
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By: TonyT - 12th January 2013 at 00:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Remember on the other thread when we were looking at stuff found and one item was a polished metal? With a hole in and I said I thought it was possibly a signal mirror but there was debate over the hole in it? Well there is a 50's or 60's RAF signal mirror on eBay and guess what
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heliograph-indicating-mirror-ejection-seat-pack-RAF-aircraft-/140899371196?pt=UK_CPV_Aviation_SM&hash=item20ce41c8bc
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By: PeterVerney - 12th January 2013 at 15:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes, standard fitting in the dinghy pack in the 50s. From memory one had to line up the object to be flashed at(!) by using the string and sighting through the hole.
By: Anonymous - 12th January 2013 at 15:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes, from memory the other side is yellow with instructions and a little diagram. But I don't recall any discussion/images of such an item being found at the P40 site?
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By: TonyT - 12th January 2013 at 15:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There was a metal plate with a hole in it found near the body
By: Anonymous - 12th January 2013 at 15:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Ah, yes. I remember what you are talking about. The copper disc from the a box of copper ore as I recall? There was also a key fob, I think.
Laurence Garey will remember.
I had thought you were talking about one of the purpose-made issue heliograph plates.
By: Anonymous - 12th January 2013 at 15:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
In theory, we should know more when Tim Manna gives his talk on 23 February to the Historic Flight Foundation - if, indeed, nothing has been made public by then although RAFM promise news this month.
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By: l.garey - 12th January 2013 at 17:01 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes, I do remember that observation. Pity we cannot refer back to the thread!
But Tony, it was not "near the body" for regrettably we are no closer to finding that. I still have no news about the search for Dennis Copping's remains.
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By: dko - 22nd January 2013 at 18:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Laurence
no new news about the search for Copping?
By: Anonymous - 1st February 2013 at 09:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Did I imagine this? Or did RAFM promise news on the P40 during January?
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By: l.garey - 1st February 2013 at 09:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
dko and Andy:
I really cannot remember what was promised and by whom.
The original thread was a source of information that has now disappeared!
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By: Mike J - 1st February 2013 at 09:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I don't think any information was promised, just that Tim Manna is doing a talk at HFF in Seattle soon.
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By: 43-2195 - 1st February 2013 at 11:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Why is the first news release since the RAFM recovery of a RAF Aircraft missing in action for 70 years being made in the United States of America? Have your news media covered the RAFM recovery mission to Egypt?