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By: 26th March 2014 at 15:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Not so much the pilot getting a bit wrong he had a bitch of a crosswind to contend with.
By: 27th March 2014 at 09:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The pilot got it a bit wrong. I've seen pilots make a much smoother landing in windier conditions.
If they were that unstable, they should have gone around. The pilot pointed the nose down right above the runway when they should have flared. They got it wrong. Simple.
Not saying they are a bad pilot or such... just that they got it a smidgen wrong on the flare.
I wonder if Deano would have continued or went around with his craft at such an attitude so late into the landing?
By: 27th March 2014 at 12:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Chaps, just out of interest, is there a procedure in place to check the aircraft after an incident like this? E.g. are there systems on the a/c that monitor hard landings and flag up some kind of inspection...?
By: 27th March 2014 at 12:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Apparently the plane was grounded, pending inspections on the landing gear.
Certainly, it's return flight back home was cancelled.
I would imagine if a landing trips certain sensors, alarms, etc, then the aircraft needs to be inspected for damage.
By: 28th March 2014 at 23:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Evil bit of wind just at the worst possible moment. Just before that they did have it in hand. Not sure we could expect much else from the handling pilot. Did well to keep it under some sort of control. Go around call might still have resulted in some sort of touchdown anyway.
By: 29th March 2014 at 00:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I wonder if Deano would have continued or went around with his craft at such an attitude so late into the landing?
It's all too easy to crucify the flight crew. Looking at it the only thing he/she did wrong was lower the nose too much because the ars3 of the aeroplane was not sitting down. They were floating. Notice the level attitude followed by a rather large push forwards. The A340 would be eating up alot more runway than my humble Q400 so it's hard to say whether a baulked landing would have been the better option. Obviously in hindsight it would have been.
Simon - yes engineers can download the G loading data and send it off to Airbus for inspection. I can only speak for my aircraft because I don't have knowledge of how Airbus do theirs but we have two gradings. If it was 2.0g or over then a grade 1 inspection is required before flight. If it was 2.5g or more then a grade 2 inspection is needed. A grade two requires a complete strip down and takes about 10 days so I am led to believe.
By: 29th March 2014 at 10:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Simon - yes engineers can download the G loading data and send it off to Airbus for inspection. I can only speak for my aircraft because I don't have knowledge of how Airbus do theirs but we have two gradings. If it was 2.0g or over then a grade 1 inspection is required before flight. If it was 2.5g or more then a grade 2 inspection is needed. A grade two requires a complete strip down and takes about 10 days so I am led to believe.
Many thanks Deano, very interesting answer!
By: 30th March 2014 at 21:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Would this not be wholly down to a gust.???
I would have thought that the computer system on the Airbus would have smoothed out any sudden movements the crew made???
By: 30th March 2014 at 23:55 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Narita airport is no stranger to heavy landings, the cross winds the airfield sees are some of the most extreme on the planet for commercial pilots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQW6ThGILq4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw-aUVa3a0U (This one was left a write-off)
By: 31st March 2014 at 08:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-oooft!
That last one was brutal. Look at the crease in that fuselage crown!
By: 31st March 2014 at 11:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Not forgetting the FDX80 MD-11F crash at Narita in heavy gusts
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By: Bmused55 - 25th March 2014 at 07:45
Check out this pilot get it a bit wrong.
You can see the fuselage bend if you watch carefully.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6b7_1395722280