Aero L-39NG - the hot future of legendary Albatros

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Aero Vodochody introduces the L-39NG: the next generation of the legendary jet trainer today

http://www.l-39ng.cz/media/news/aero-vodochody-dokoncuje-svou-restrukturalizaci-3/

video: http://www.gonzoaviation.com/clanok/projekt-l-39ng-sen-ci-buduci-biznis

specification: http://www.l-39ng.cz/program-l-39-ng/about-program/#scrollTo=tabs&tab=avionics-upgrade

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Cool, but isn't that what the L-159 was (is)?

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Cool, but isn't that what the L-159 was (is)?

L-159 is completely different aircraft from Albatros...

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And the L-39NG isn't?

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And the L-39NG isn't?

Completely?
Maybe it's the time for another popular fairy tale "L-159 is variant of L-39" style: ČZ vz.58 IS a kalashnikov...

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M-345 and L-39NG are in the same weight class.
L-159A competes against Hawk trainers and somewhat against M-346.

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Completely?
Maybe it's the time for another popular fairy tale "L-159 is variant of L-39" style: ČZ vz.58 IS a kalashnikov...

Well at least the vz58 and the AK had completely different operating principles.

The L-159 is essentially an L-39 airframe with local reinforcement. Same aerodynamics, even the same wing profile: NACA 64A012.5. Aero even stated that this was how it evolved.

Some nice avionics and a more powerful engine.

Over to you for the full explanation of how this is completely different from the 1968 original other than in the marketeer's imagination.

Edit: I omitted to mention the 'completely redesigned nose' and the change to B-type ejection seats...

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Well at least the vz58 and the AK had completely different operating principles.

The L-159 is essentially an L-39 airframe with local reinforcement. Same aerodynamics, even the same wing profile: NACA 64A012.5. Aero even stated that this was how it evolved.

Some nice avionics and a more powerful engine.

Over to you for the full explanation of how this is completely different from the 1968 original other than in the marketeer's imagination.

Edit: I omitted to mention the 'completely redesigned nose' and the change to B-type ejection seats...

"essencially" and "with local reinforcement" - excelent!
I can say vz.58 IS kalašnikov, proudly, I know it... :highly_amused: because it looks like kalašnikov, like L-159 airframe and wing are as same as with L-39 because looks like....

Seriously, already looong time these fairly tales dont attract me, the end

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M-345 and L-39NG are in the same weight class.
L-159A competes against Hawk trainers and somewhat against M-346.

The ALCA with its straight wings is at a disadvantage compared to all other LIFTs. But it is fully mission capable, it's called ALCA for a reason. Market outlook isn't bright for that class of aircraft though so it might make sense to offer a new medium level trainer. If it weren't for those turboprop trainers everyone is buying... the M-345 hasn't seen much success as well. Singapore f.e. replaced its S-211 trainers with the PC-21.

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"essencially" and "with local reinforcement" - excelent!
I can say vz.58 IS kalašnikov, proudly, I know it... :highly_amused: because it looks like kalašnikov, like L-159 airframe and wing are as same as with L-39 because looks like....

Seriously, already looong time these fairly tales dont attract me, the end

I own a vz.58, the amount of times I have to explain at the shooting range that it isn't an AK....if I had a penny each time!

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I own a vz.58, the amount of times I have to explain at the shooting range that it isn't an AK....if I had a penny each time!

yeah :-))

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Aero has announced the start of the first four L-39NGs production, three prototypes and one pre-serial plane...

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Senegal has ordered first four brand new L-39NGs, so Senegal is the first customer for NG. Further customer for L-39NG will be announced very soon...

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12 L-39NGs to be delivered to RSW Aviation, one of the top military training providers in United States. The agreement also includes an upgrade of 6 legacy L-39s into the L-39CW variant.
10 + optional 6 L-39NG training aircraft to be delivered to SkyTech, the leading provider of military aviation services and funding solutions.

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Let me point attention how its exactly the emergence of a new generation of hih performance planes like Yak-130/M-346 or Fai T-50 that have opened a space for the revamping of such a class of light jet trainers like M-345 and L-39NG..
While there is a need of planes with swept wings, high angle of attack and high load turning in order to replicate performance of 4,5gen and 5gen planes their far greater cost , both in acquisition and for flight/hour made it impossible to use them in order to cover all the basic and advanced trainer part previously covered by straight wing heavy trainer like Hawk and MB-339.
Now until such planes would still work they will be kept anyway but for the future (or in case of my own country the present) there will be a great convenience into purchase a smaller and cheaper but still with good overall performance jet trainer in order to spare money in the basic and first leg of advanced training phase passing to the most capable one only when it would really be needed.

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What, no hot girls at the rollout? :very_drunk:
New canopy makes L-39NG look somewhat different. Reshaped nose?

straight wing heavy trainer like Hawk

The Hawk has swept wings and is supersonic in a dive.

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Yeah, the nose is new, shorter and redesigned and there is higher grading of the seats in the cockpit, the air intakers of the engine are smaller...

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22. december - maiden flight has been successful....

Congratulations to the team! Hope this jet has bright future!