Scottish independence. Now the post-mortem

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A question or several regarding motoring from and to a foreign country.

I have no answers perhaps others do.

1 If Scotland becomes a foreign country will the DVLA still administer vehicle tax?

2 If not will all vehicle details become invalid and Scottish vehicle need to be registered there?

3 Will all Scottish vehicles be subject to on the spot fines paid at the roadside? (as foreign truckers have to)

4 Will Scottish vehicle be liable for import duty if the owner moves to the UK permanently?

5 Will they need a green card ?

6 Will the system also work in reverse for UK vehicles?

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All very valid questions amongst hundreds of others to which Mr Salmond has no answers and just assumes they will all be sorted out after the vote. Every single UK institution will no longer have dealings in a foreign country -obviously - so he has to decide how they will function and be funded by the Scottish Treasury.

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...will they continue to drive on the left??

just asking

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And last not forget the BBC

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And it just exemplifies how large a step into the unknown independence will be. Salmond's blind faith that it will all be sorted out AFTER the vote is facile to say the least. The negotiations will be tough and it will not be Mr Salmond in the driving seat. He is doomed if he does and doomed if he doesn't as far as the currency is concerned.

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Will visitors have to choose between taking 'the High Road or the 'Low Road' ?

Will Jocks have to stop 'tickling' ?

Do we have to get started on rebuilding Hadrians masterpiece ?

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Will Jocks have to stop 'tickling' ?

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South of the Border, yes, unless they have a Visa.

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How can anyone vote "Yes" with so little info to go on...?

And, of course, once Scotland is no longer part of UK it will no longer be an EU member. Sure, the EU may simply "rubber stamp" an application to join, but it seems that if they insist on retaining the pound that could be a major barrier to entry. And I doubt EU will accept another new member State unless they are happy to "pay their way" in terms of paying subsidies etc, and of course, Scotland will not necessarily gain any benefit from any EU "concessions" England may negotiate. Has Salmond actually asked the EU what conditions they are likley to set if Scotland wishes to join as an Independent State? Has he publicised the EU's answers for the electorate to read and consider?

So, not only are there questions over car tax, but any Jocks who travel in EU States (including England, Wales and NI) may find they are no longer entitled to free emergency medical treatment, as their EH1C cards (or whatever they are now) may no longer be valid...

And they may not be able to bring in as much booze and ciggies as they want (for personal consumpton) from EU States, just the usual restricted "International allowance" - unless of course Salmond is happy to see a potential source of import duty revenue lost. Only small things among a myriad of other "disadvantages" in Independence that seem to be as yet unconsidered by many, let alone the fact the are still unanswered, but two small things that may well impact upon the cost of a voter's holiday "sur la continent" .

Salmond will definitely find his place in history is assured, albeit possibly for reasons he may not have expected - any dream of being seen as some sort of "Braveheart II" seems unlikely to be his long-term epitath.

Voting "No" always leaves room for a another referendum at a later date once more details have been worked out (and/or leaves room for a gradual approach to self-rule via "Devo-Max"), but voting "Yes" really is a "**** or bust" decision, with no option to retract that decision however unpleasent the consequences may start to become.

How could anyone possibly vote "yes" when so much of the consequence is unknown? However much someone might want Independence surely common sense says you don't vote for something that is so poorly defined. Voting with your "heart" is fine, so long as you undertand it may well hit you hard in the wallet at a later date. It's all very well believeing a man who says that oil revenue will give you a life of luxury in a land of plentiful milk and honey, but what happens when the oil revenue starts to runs out, where's the money to fund your life of luxury going to come from then -Westminster won't be diverting public funds your way in hope of buying your votes at a General Election, as you won't be sending elected members south of the border...?

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It would be interesting to know the views of Scottish members of the forces, how many would want to transfer to the Scottish Army, Royal Scottish Air Force and the Royal Scottish Navy. They have served the UK well for a very long time, from the "Thin Red Line" at Waterloo to the present. I feel that most would want to stay, if that is the case where will Mr. Salmond get his forces from?

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That makes the assumption, shared by the Salmond, that the Sovereign of England, Wales and Northern Ireland will automatically be the head of state of the nation of Scotland. If so Scotland would have to apply to be a member of the Commonwealth and the Sovereign represented by a Govenor General.

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Watching and listening to Alex Salmond on tv today, certainly didn't impress me, far too many questions which he simply wouldn't or couldn't answer, then accuses journalists of an orchestrated campaign against the yes group, simply because they dared to ask the questions.

Looks more and more like a personal power trip than a fully reasoned campaign.

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And last not forget the BBC

Yes, think how much the BBC could/will save by not having to broadcast any Scottish regional programmes.

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True but it would also lose about 12% of its revenue.

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True but it would also lose about 12% of its revenue.

Easy....cancel Top Gear.:)

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True but it would also lose about 12% of its revenue.

Why so much, Scotland accounts for 8.4% of the population of the UK at the moment.

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>>>>>Easy....cancel Top Gear....

Best reason to vote "yes" that I've heard so far.....

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At the moment the weather on BBC is shown for England Wales Scotland & Northern Ireland, but not Southern Ireland. Does a yes vote mean that Scotland will not be mentioned in the weather forecast anymore?
the map will be blank from the border up!

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Hopefully unless they pay some dosh to the BBC. Nowt for owt as my Yorkshire friend was always saying to me!

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Nicely put. There's a lot they will have to pay for which they have conveniently omitted to mention........