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By: 1st April 2007 at 21:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Is this the beastie?
http://www.millsgrenades.co.uk/images/german%20bombs/sd2a.JPG
By: 2nd April 2007 at 18:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Butterfly Bomb containers.
When Grimsby was showered with these bombs in 1942 I was only twelve, but I remember seeing containers littered around the town and they seemed to be cylindrical, five feet long and about three feet in diameter. They appeared to be spring loaded to open on leaving the aircraft scattering the bombs willy nilly.
Ken
By: 2nd April 2007 at 19:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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This is the item I need to identify. Its only a thought that it might be a butterfly bomb container, but whatever it is it screams air dropped dispensing container, but what and whose is it?
By: 3rd April 2007 at 20:44 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Here is another whatisit from the bowles of the Museum at Middle Wallop.
Is ir a spinner, It can't be a radome as its all aluminium, this time there is a serial number 559 41 1d 139B and then something that looks like an angel or a stylised eagle. [ATTACH]151773[/ATTACH]
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By: 4th April 2007 at 09:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Not a SD 2 container but possibility part of a 1kg incendiary container. Looks very similar to the AB36 container the Luftwaffe used for carrying 36 1kg or 24 2kg incendiaries. The only thing is that it looks like it’s made of aluminium while the info I've got (a 1944 US Navy Bomb Disposal Manual) says the AB36 should be steel and the illustrations doesn't show any fins.
Anne
By: 4th April 2007 at 14:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Is this the beastie?
http://www.millsgrenades.co.uk/images/german%20bombs/sd2a.JPG
Not sure but I was always told that these bombs were impossible to defuse - which makes me wonder if this one is still live?
By: 4th April 2007 at 15:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Butterfly bombs
They could not be defused because on the way down after being ejected from the container, the outer casing formed a fan which rotated and unscrewed the fuse. Depending on how far the fuse was unscrewed was the sensitivty. Theonly way of disposing of them was to cover them gently with sandbags, drop in (carefully) a wad of gun cotton with a 30 second fuse) light blue touch paper and retire imediately!!!
By: 10th April 2007 at 15:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-They could not be defused because on the way down after being ejected from the container, the outer casing formed a fan which rotated and unscrewed the fuse. Depending on how far the fuse was unscrewed was the sensitivty. Theonly way of disposing of them was to cover them gently with sandbags, drop in (carefully) a wad of gun cotton with a 30 second fuse) light blue touch paper and retire imediately!!!
So if someone had one in their collection, it should be considered "live"?
http://www.millsgrenades.co.uk/images/german%20bombs/sd2a.JPG
By: 10th April 2007 at 18:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Prince Charles had one on his mantlepiece at Highgrove House years ago. That too was live and had to be 'rendered safe by detonation'. I am also under the impression that there was no way to safely defuse the sods.
By: 10th April 2007 at 22:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Prince Charles had one on his mantlepiece at Highgrove House years ago. That too was live and had to be 'rendered safe by detonation'. I am also under the impression that there was no way to safely defuse the sods.
I used to have a "mint" example given me by an ex-bomb disposal man and I know of several other inert examples in private hands. I think the EOD policy is to assume they are live and blow them up whatever the circumstances! Andy Saunders
By: 10th April 2007 at 22:38 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Here is another whatisit from the bowles of the Museum at Middle Wallop.
Is ir a spinner, It can't be a radome as its all aluminium, this time there is a serial number 559 41 1d 139B and then something that looks like an angel or a stylised eagle. [ATTACH]151773[/ATTACH][ATTACH]151774[/ATTACH]
These quite often turn up and are mistaken for some kind of prop spinner cone. In fact, the parachute housing dome of a Luftwaffe "Luftmine" or parachute mine - probably a LMA or LMB rather than the "Monika" sea mine or BM1000. This one was manufactured in 1941 and was probably one of many dropped in the Blitz. Andy Saunders
By: 11th April 2007 at 07:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Bomb defusing..
A large hammer usually works first time...:diablo:
By: 11th April 2007 at 09:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Tangmere, thanks for that, I'm sure the currator at Middle Wallop will be delighted when I tell her. I did have a suspicion that it was an aerodynamic nose for something as blunt nosed as a mine but needed someone who knew to confirm it.
By: 22nd October 2014 at 14:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-[ATTACH]151757[/ATTACH]This is the item I need to identify. Its only a thought that it might be a butterfly bomb container, but whatever it is it screams air dropped dispensing container, but what and whose is it?
I have manual for SD-2 (B-bomb) dispensers, and that does not look like it.
By: 22nd October 2014 at 16:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-A large hammer usually works first time...:diablo:
But don't forget to close your eyes and put your spare finger in one of your ears, they can be noisy blighters:D
these were the modern Ruskie version we played with in the 80's
By: 22nd October 2014 at 16:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I am pretty sure it used to be called a 3 1/2 inch floppy, but no one uses such things these days :highly_amused:
seriously though, when you flip it does it look like this?
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30023916
says butterfly items cannot be defused, see
http://inert-ord.net/usa03a/usa6/bfly/index.html
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By: 22nd October 2014 at 17:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-This is a Abwurfbehalter AB-36 which contained 36 1kg Incendiary bombs. Looks like only half of it??
By: 23rd October 2014 at 07:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-these were the modern Ruskie version we played with in the 80's
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Ah the notorious "Green Parrot" much beloved of Taceval organisers.
By: 25th October 2014 at 01:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-One of the several types of container produced to hold German B1 incendiary bombs.
By: 25th October 2014 at 02:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Ah the notorious "Green Parrot" much beloved of Taceval organisers.
What was it? Took 10 mins to arm? So when a injection was put out saying dropped in front of HAS, Distaff were stunned to see a guy on the little road sweeper we had sweep the apron and taxiway then dump it on the grass all with the ten mins period :)
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By: Aeronut - 1st April 2007 at 18:36
Having spent the day sorting through some long forgotton artifacts belonging to the museum at Middle Wallop we came across an item that beat our group knowledge to identify.
I've more or less convinced myself that it is part of the outer casing of a German SD2 butterfly bomb container. If it is the whole would be roughly cruciform in section. The part has a elongated ring for suspension and then an electrically operated switch arrangement to release it. Before anyone asks, I can see no markings of any sort on it.
So to put my mind at rest has anyone got a picture of the beast (not the bomb but the container - presumably also bomb shaped) or at least can someone point me in the direction of one.