By: Michael Hjorth
- 23rd January 2015 at 23:47Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Through the glas clear ice we could see lots of material and parts on the lake bottom. C. 3 feet deep, and it should not be a problem in summer to get down to it.
...tells the story. I believe Veron Rich did obtain salvage rights in the immediate aftermath of the salvage attemmpt and fire: but I don't think anything ever came of it.
By: Flying_Pencil
- 19th June 2015 at 22:06Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Correct. There was a big number of complaints to Greenemyer over the way he handled the whole "mission" including the way he just left the remains. I've also heard that the family of Rick Kriege, who sadly died during the attempted rescue of the Kee, have sued Daryll on the grounds that he overworked him. Not sure how that ended up, but i've read many articles all saying that Greenemyer is known as quite unprofessional and stupid and is not respected in the aviation industry much.
I always had a funny feeling about him at the way he just sat there and watched the Kee burn to the ground without much emotion.
I'd be completely in bits seeing such a beautiful piece of engineering burn in front of me.
I met Daryll (and Ascher Ward) in Tulsa as they where transferring a YC-125 to NMUSAF.
Did not strike me as "professional", more seat of pants will see if everything works as we go kind of guy.
By: Flying_Pencil
- 19th June 2015 at 22:17Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Michael Hjorth, thank you very much for going though effort and posting!
Very few would take the time, and this is still a very valuable piece of history, both the aircraft, but the perils of recovery, lessons in how things can go very wrong, and how nature slowly takes back what we build.
I bet the thawing and freezing of the lake is source of some damage, buckling of the engine nacelle for instance.
Also the bent prop may be wind blowing hulk until it hit object with prop and bet it. Only 1 I see bent.
PS Michael Hjorth, I would rather jump out of airplane with parachute than "finger jam" on cliff any day!!!
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By: stuart gowans - 22nd January 2015 at 15:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Although reading further, you can suggest a topic for coverage by themselves.
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By: Mike J - 22nd January 2015 at 15:33 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
You can, but wouldn't that rather defeat the object?
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By: CaptainKeef - 23rd January 2015 at 00:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Still a lot of good parts there( by current standards)
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By: Michael Hjorth - 23rd January 2015 at 23:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Through the glas clear ice we could see lots of material and parts on the lake bottom. C. 3 feet deep, and it should not be a problem in summer to get down to it.
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By: JAYBASALAJ - 18th June 2015 at 10:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The current status of the b29 kee bird.
Hi I would like to know more about the b29 kee bird and who has the salvage rights.
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By: Sabrejet - 18th June 2015 at 10:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I believe there is/was an active thread on WIX which is visited by those 'in the know'.
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By: Propstrike - 18th June 2015 at 19:09 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Look at post 26 on this thread. The recent photos tell about all you need to know of current condition, I imagine.
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?93056-Current-status-of-the-quot-Kee-Bird-quot-B-29-Superfortress
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By: 1batfastard - 18th June 2015 at 19:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi All,
:eagerness:Got me wondering too I found this you may be interested in ? http://www.b29keebird.net/main.html also this little video as of Sept 2014
Geoff.
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By: Sabrejet - 18th June 2015 at 19:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Maybe I missed it, but there doesn't seem to be a mention of salvage rights on this thread?
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By: JAYBASALAJ - 19th June 2015 at 05:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks :)
I will have a look now
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By: JAYBASALAJ - 19th June 2015 at 06:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
who Owns the salvage rights to the kee bird? I've heard romours that Vernon Rich one of the origanal
Salvage crew has them?
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By: JAYBASALAJ - 19th June 2015 at 07:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Where could I buy the book? I've only seen the DVD
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By: Mahone - 19th June 2015 at 09:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Idon't know of an actual book from the Nova DVD - but if you haven't got it already, then this book...
http://www.amazon.com/Hunting-Warbirds-Obsessive-Quest-Aircraft/dp/0345436180
...tells the story. I believe Veron Rich did obtain salvage rights in the immediate aftermath of the salvage attemmpt and fire: but I don't think anything ever came of it.
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By: Flying_Pencil - 19th June 2015 at 22:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I met Daryll (and Ascher Ward) in Tulsa as they where transferring a YC-125 to NMUSAF.
Did not strike me as "professional", more seat of pants will see if everything works as we go kind of guy.
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By: Flying_Pencil - 19th June 2015 at 22:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Michael Hjorth, thank you very much for going though effort and posting!
Very few would take the time, and this is still a very valuable piece of history, both the aircraft, but the perils of recovery, lessons in how things can go very wrong, and how nature slowly takes back what we build.
I bet the thawing and freezing of the lake is source of some damage, buckling of the engine nacelle for instance.
Also the bent prop may be wind blowing hulk until it hit object with prop and bet it. Only 1 I see bent.
PS Michael Hjorth, I would rather jump out of airplane with parachute than "finger jam" on cliff any day!!!
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By: JAYBASALAJ - 19th June 2015 at 23:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks :)
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By: JAYBASALAJ - 20th June 2015 at 01:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
So I've heard that Vernon Rich got the salvage rights after the fire but does he still have them now?
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By: richw_82 - 20th June 2015 at 06:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Contact the authorities in Greenland and find out.
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By: JAYBASALAJ - 21st June 2015 at 00:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Is there another b29 in Greenland that is the same as kee bird was before the fire? I've just heard romours about it.
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By: crownsuplus4u - 28th November 2015 at 22:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
These props we can see in 2015 are not the 1947 crash ones Michael, they are certainly the props instalated by Darrel's team