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By: 28th July 2015 at 04:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Here is an image from Sky News
http://news.sky.com/story/1526214/sweden-investigates-if-wreck-is-russian-sub
By: 28th July 2015 at 09:44 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Hmm... the 'Beeb' has a quote suggesting that it's a sub from 1916. If the sky image is accurate it looks a mite more recent than that. No encrustations or decay to be seen.
By: 28th July 2015 at 10:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Hmm... the 'Beeb' has a quote suggesting that it's a sub from 1916. If the sky image is accurate it looks a mite more recent than that. No encrustations or decay to be seen.
Those were my thoughts, it looks fairly modern. Even taking into account where it was found.
By: 28th July 2015 at 10:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The conspiracy-theorist in me wanted it to be modern but the side scan (?) image looks like something that would have been in service 100 years ago, rather than a modern-ish mini sub. Also the colour scheme looks a little inappropriate for sneaky creeping around in the shallow waters around the Swedish coast, whereas the old photos show something so similar as to be near as damn it indisputable - if a little unbelievable due to the vast passage of time between its loss and rediscovery.
By: 28th July 2015 at 11:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Interesting thought. Looking up 'Russian submarine Catfish' shows it to be a Holland boat which certainly qualifies in terms of size - they really weren't big. I also recall that the waters of the Baltic have an uncanny ability to preserve shipwrecks.
By: 28th July 2015 at 12:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Things don't go off very fast in the Baltic:
http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/13623
Here's a genuine WW1 sub in the Baltic: http://www.hmse18.org/finding-e18/4583519154
Adrian
(still hoping the wreck of E22 is identified one day - a relation is still out there on her)
By: 28th July 2015 at 12:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I also recall that the waters of the Baltic have an uncanny ability to preserve shipwrecks.
Not to the extent surely, where a WWI wreck would have no marine growth on it whatsoever ?
By: 28th July 2015 at 12:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-If you look at the Cyrillic letter, I don't think there's any more growth around that than on E18 - if it is a WWI-era sub I suspect the letter may be bronze, so raised from the hull surface.
Adrian
By: 28th July 2015 at 13:38 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Have a look at the wreck of the 'Russalka', a Russian ironclad which sank in 1892. It's not entirely encrustation free but it's pretty incredible. Not to mention the Wasa. A wooden ship but amazingly intact - makes the Mary Rose look a bit feeble. Take a look at the Vasa website - no outward sign of decay on the wrecks hull when salvaged.
Must admit, I am now more inclined to the view that the sub is an old one than I was.
By: 29th July 2015 at 07:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Hi All,
This will surely put everybody's mind at rest follow the link :- https://www.rt.com/news/310967-sweden-russian-submarine-found/
If you want just watch the video from the article linked above Sorry in Swedish.
Geoff.
By: 29th July 2015 at 08:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I wonder why they showed so little of the underwater footage ?
By: 29th July 2015 at 08:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Hi All,
This is the same team who found the Baltic Anomaly dubbed by some because of it's shape the (Underwater Millennium Falcon). While they are earning funds to find out exactly what that object is ? I suspect this submarine discovery would be one of their bread and butter projects they do as a full time profession and they would be ltd to how much they could say I assume ?
Baltic Anomaly.
Geoff.
By: 29th July 2015 at 09:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-So does that mean this latest "find" could be a publicity stunt ?
By: 29th July 2015 at 15:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-... Sorry in Swedish...
Most of this lot will understand a smattering of Swedish (mainly stuff about repairing washing machines and how warm it appears indoors) but we'll all understand it if they'd just speak with a Swedish accent...;o)
By: 30th July 2015 at 12:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The Facebook consensus is that it is from 1916. I saw people get quite worked up about it!
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By: snafu - 28th July 2015 at 01:15
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33684715
Maybe they did sink something last year.
(Didn't put this in the Naval Aviation section over on modern military since the Swedes don't actually have anything that could sink a submarine whilst flying...)