By: MrBlueSky
- 19th January 2019 at 20:04Permalink- Edited 19th January 2019 at 20:37
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"It is a historical test for Europe" Angela Merkel
Its stupidity like this that just might have something to do with the backlash running through Western Countries against their democratic elected ministers, whose job it is to the Nation State safe...
So after 60 years later are western countries people safer at home than they were in the 50's?
And perhaps it's a reason why over 50% of the electorate thought to themselves, amongst other things, that we might be better if we and our Children & Grand Children were out side of the fence looking in rather than stood the other side looking out...
Washington Post? I think they should concentrate on their home territory where there is far worse terrorism, that of white American on white American, tens of thousands of deaths a year.
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By: MrBlueSky
- 19th January 2019 at 23:48Permalink- Edited 19th January 2019 at 23:52
'Such smart uniforms,' said Sergeant Wilson who was fond of observing of the Nazis in the Dad's Army series. 'Blind obedience, Wilson,' said Captain Mainwaring...
Perhaps this is why the 'Remainers' are so happy to be in the EU, under the boot of their authoritarian masters, lacking the spunk to be outside the box as are we the Brexiteers!
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By: MrBlueSky
- 20th January 2019 at 00:14Permalink- Edited 20th January 2019 at 00:22
Ah, dear Kevin my boy, shame you didn't put down how many lives are saved by legal gun owners...
See here...
The numbers of defensive gun uses (DGUs) each year is controversial. But one study ordered by the CDC and conducted by The National Academies’ Institute of Medicine and National Research Council reported that, “Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence”:
Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.
Another study estimates there are 1,029,615 DGUs per year “for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere” excluding “military service, police work, or work as a security guard,” (within the range of the National Academies’ paper), yielding an estimate of 162,000 cases per year where someone “almost certainly would have been killed” if they “had not used a gun for protection.”
Thing is, when somebody continually lies and shows continual self interest disguised as interest for the “real” people his words are hollow and meaningless.
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By: St. John
- 22nd January 2019 at 09:57Permalink
I think people on both sides can be accused of that.
By: trekbuster
- 22nd January 2019 at 16:59Permalink
Whilst they say no Uk Jobs to be lost, it does mean that yet more of the manufacturing is likely to be overseas. 6%of turnover reinvested in the UK. Not exactly generous of the guy who has accepted many millons of EU money.
The UK does not have a monopoly on opportunities though"
That's a slightly more downbeat message from the previous one of brexit generated sunny uplands and business utopia!
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By: St. John
- 23rd January 2019 at 16:46Permalink
Amiga 500 - Basically you (and I) want a return to the pre-1979 system where elected national leaders, or their representatives, are the only people at the table.
"...Cameron says that British football clubs could be excluded from European competitions if we leave..."
He does realise that even Russia is in these competitions?
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By: St. John
- 23rd January 2019 at 16:53Permalink
he Japanese firm will move its European headquarters to the Netherlands to avoid customs issues.
They won't avoid customs issues though, they'll have plenty when they try export their goods to the UK.
That's a slightly more downbeat message from the previous one of brexit generated sunny uplands and business utopia!
There are no job losses as a result of this move though and who knows, they might move back if we lower corporation taxes post Brexit.
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By: MrBlueSky
- 24th January 2019 at 09:48Permalink
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By: MrBlueSky - 19th January 2019 at 20:04 Permalink - Edited 19th January 2019 at 20:37
The second...
"It is a historical test for Europe" Angela Merkel
Its stupidity like this that just might have something to do with the backlash running through Western Countries against their democratic elected ministers, whose job it is to the Nation State safe...
So after 60 years later are western countries people safer at home than they were in the 50's?
And perhaps it's a reason why over 50% of the electorate thought to themselves, amongst other things, that we might be better if we and our Children & Grand Children were out side of the fence looking in rather than stood the other side looking out...
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By: Agent K - 19th January 2019 at 22:26 Permalink
Washington Post? I think they should concentrate on their home territory where there is far worse terrorism, that of white American on white American, tens of thousands of deaths a year.
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By: MrBlueSky - 19th January 2019 at 23:48 Permalink - Edited 19th January 2019 at 23:52
'Such smart uniforms,' said Sergeant Wilson who was fond of observing of the Nazis in the Dad's Army series. 'Blind obedience, Wilson,' said Captain Mainwaring...
Perhaps this is why the 'Remainers' are so happy to be in the EU, under the boot of their authoritarian masters, lacking the spunk to be outside the box as are we the Brexiteers!
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By: MrBlueSky - 20th January 2019 at 00:14 Permalink - Edited 20th January 2019 at 00:22
Ah, dear Kevin my boy, shame you didn't put down how many lives are saved by legal gun owners...
See here...
The numbers of defensive gun uses (DGUs) each year is controversial. But one study ordered by the CDC and conducted by The National Academies’ Institute of Medicine and National Research Council reported that, “Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence”:
Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.
Another study estimates there are 1,029,615 DGUs per year “for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere” excluding “military service, police work, or work as a security guard,” (within the range of the National Academies’ paper), yielding an estimate of 162,000 cases per year where someone “almost certainly would have been killed” if they “had not used a gun for protection.”
(In comparison, there were 11,208 homicide deaths by firearm in the US in 2012. There were a total of 33,636 deaths due to “injury by firearms,” of which the majority were suicides, 21,175.)
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By: MrBlueSky - 20th January 2019 at 00:23 Permalink - Edited 20th January 2019 at 00:26
Now I wonder why?
London now more dangerous than New York City, crime stats suggest.
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By: Agent K - 21st January 2019 at 09:00 Permalink
:rolleyes: :sleeping:
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By: St. John - 21st January 2019 at 10:25 Permalink - Edited 21st January 2019 at 10:26
He has a point though, further negotiations at this stage are a waste of time and money.
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By: Agent K - 21st January 2019 at 19:12 Permalink
Thing is, when somebody continually lies and shows continual self interest disguised as interest for the “real” people his words are hollow and meaningless.
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By: St. John - 22nd January 2019 at 09:57 Permalink
I think people on both sides can be accused of that.
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By: John Green - 22nd January 2019 at 10:08 Permalink
AK
Hope you're not thinking of Tony Blair ?
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By: trekbuster - 22nd January 2019 at 16:59 Permalink
Whilst they say no Uk Jobs to be lost, it does mean that yet more of the manufacturing is likely to be overseas. 6%of turnover reinvested in the UK. Not exactly generous of the guy who has accepted many millons of EU money.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46962093
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/eu-farming-subsidies-billionaires-high-uk-rich-list-recipients-brexit-james-dyson-earl-rosebery-cap-a7815871.html
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By: Agent K - 22nd January 2019 at 18:02 Permalink
Oh? Could’ve sworn that he claimed that golden opportunities would lie in the UK in the post brexit future?
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By: Agent K - 22nd January 2019 at 18:06 Permalink
F*ck up 10,000 people’s plans due to self inflicted harm.... way to go!
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By: St. John - 22nd January 2019 at 18:08 Permalink
The UK does not have a monopoly on opportunities though.
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By: Agent K - 23rd January 2019 at 11:29 Permalink
Yet more great brexit job creation news.... for Europe...........
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By: Agent K - 23rd January 2019 at 11:32 Permalink
"
The UK does not have a monopoly on opportunities though"
That's a slightly more downbeat message from the previous one of brexit generated sunny uplands and business utopia!
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By: St. John - 23rd January 2019 at 16:46 Permalink
Amiga 500 - Basically you (and I) want a return to the pre-1979 system where elected national leaders, or their representatives, are the only people at the table.
He does realise that even Russia is in these competitions?Posts: 550
By: St. John - 23rd January 2019 at 16:53 Permalink
They won't avoid customs issues though, they'll have plenty when they try export their goods to the UK. There are no job losses as a result of this move though and who knows, they might move back if we lower corporation taxes post Brexit.Posts: 1,071
By: MrBlueSky - 24th January 2019 at 09:48 Permalink
Jacob Rees-Mogg's empowering Brexit speech at Bruges Group https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyyBqSBgwQU
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By: Agent K - 24th January 2019 at 19:33 Permalink - Edited 30th January 2019 at 11:27
Brexit uncertainty is a disgrace, says Airbus http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46984229