[London lawyer, Samuel Wordsworth QC, leads Russia’s defense in the ICJ ] argued that "there is no evidence before the court, plausible or otherwise, that Russia provided weaponry to any party with the intent or knowledge that such weaponry be used to shoot down civilian aircraft, as would be required under Article 2.1.b." In fact, per Wordsworth: “Whoever was allegedly supplying this Buk [missile system] was acting in response to a series of armed strikes by Ukraine's military aircraft." The intent, therefore, was not to shoot down a civilian aircraft but to take out aggressive Ukrainian military aircraft.
Foreign Ministers of the countries whose investigative authorities together make up the Joint Investigation Team (JIT) – Australia, Belgium, Malaysia, Ukraine and the Netherlands – will sign a document on the case of Boeing 777 flight MH17 in New York next week.
Ukrainian ambassador to Malaysia Olexander Nechytaylo said the signing of the document, which defines detailed steps and actions for all participating countries, will be held on the sidelines of 72nd UN General Assembly.
A statement from Mykolaiv police on Facebook (in Ukrainian) described Voloshyn's death as "suicide", but it is being investigated under the "premeditated murder" section of Ukraine's penal code.
A military service pistol was found at the scene and is now being examined by experts.
Yuriy Butusov, a Ukrainian journalist, who knew Voloshyn well, commended the pilot after the news of his death, as an ideal airman who had fought bravely against the Russian-backed rebels. Butusov expressed astonishment over his death.
"Dear Vlad, how can this be?! Why?!" he said. "He didn’t let himself break down, he wasn’t depressed at all — he always acted as an exemplary officer."
According to Butusov, the fighter pilot had bombed Russian paratroops during the battle of Ilovaisk in August 2014, a battle considered to be one of the bloodiest in the Donbass conflict. Over 300 Ukrainian soldiers were reportedly killed while fighting there.
Butusov added that Voloshyn had been shot down but ultimately taken out from his Su-25, and reached Ukrainian lines despite being severely injured.
"I didn't hear him speak of any enemies or unresolved problems," he said, adding that the deceased fighter pilot was happily married and is survived by his wife, a boy and two-year-old girl, according to the BBC
By: Anonymous
- 19th March 2018 at 20:47Permalink- Edited 10th April 2020 at 19:36
I actually missed the part about Russia claiming it was an air-to-air shootdown. Very sad this poor guy lost his life and I wouldn't be surprised if it was made to look like a suicide.
By: TomcatViP
- 21st March 2018 at 12:31Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
We had some mention of this in the thread. You may want to start here for a refresh.
This began after the Russian radar data showed a post shotdown contact (as emphasized by the Russian command) right after the hit airliner start to fall appart. Nothing serious came after those prompted accusations (the plane was shot down by a SAM as we all know). But it doesn't mean that no plane were ever shadowing MH17, a Frog or anything else with appropriate ECM.
New
By: Anonymous
- 21st March 2018 at 21:56Permalink- Edited 10th April 2020 at 19:36
Yes I don't know who they were trying to BS, the Korean Air Lines flight 007 was shot down air-to-air and took over 20 minutes to crash (R.I.P.)
And of course, one always wonders about the "truth" put out by "authorities".
[Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull] insists his government is doing everything it can to deliver justice for the 38 Australians killed in the the 2014 attack over eastern Ukraine.
He said he knew one of the Australians killed: "A beautiful nun, actually, who taught my daughter."
"They have not got justice yet and we're doing everything we can to deliver it, but the justice is being denied by the Russian government, that's the reality," Mr Turnbull told 2GB radio on Thursday.
While no Buk missile can be detected on the Russian radar images – a fact pointed out by the Russian government, which has put forward alternative theories on the loss of MH17 – the analysis identified several reasons for its absence.
The Buk missile is capable of speeds in excess of 2,600km/h and this supersonic velocity is far beyond those typically being processed by civil aviation surveillance systems.
"Display filters could limit the visibility – this is to avoid clutter on the radar image," the analysis adds. "The consequence is that, therefore, a Buk cannot be seen."
Russian authorities supplied radar data in its original format as well as data converted to the standard 'Asterix' format. Investigators believe there is "no reason to assume" that conversion resulted in the loss of any relevant information, but the analysis nevertheless covered both data sets.
[...]
Investigators had sought data from a second radar station, sited at Baturinskaya, but none has been supplied by the Russian government.
By: Loke
- 24th May 2018 at 15:23Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The missile that downed a Malaysia Airlines flight over eastern Ukraine in 2014 belonged to a Russian brigade, international investigators say.
For the first time, the Dutch-led team said the missile had come from a unit based in western Russia.
All 298 people on board the Boeing 777 died when it broke apart in mid-air flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur.
It was hit by a missile fired from rebel-held territory in Ukraine. Russia says none of its weapons was used.
But on Thursday Wilbert Paulissen, a Dutch official from the Joint Investigation Team (JIT), told reporters: "All the vehicles in a convoy carrying the missile were part of the Russian armed forces."
He restated the JIT's conclusion that the plane had been destroyed by a Russian-made Buk missile, adding that it had been supplied by the country's 53rd anti-aircraft brigade in Kursk.
At a news conference in the Dutch city of Utrecht, the investigators also showed social media pictures which they said traced the route the missile convoy had taken to reach eastern Ukraine.
By: TomcatViP
- 29th June 2019 at 11:50Permalink- Edited 6th July 2019 at 07:57
Great news but, still, it's sad that no responsibilities are charged on those that let the plane fly above a conflict zone where high altitude SAM's were spotted earlier. And it's not like they were spotted only a couple of hours before this dramatic war incident.
The Dutch government on Friday said it would file a suit against Russia at the European Court of Human Rights over the downing of Malaysia Airlines passenger flight MH17 over eastern Ukraine six years ago.
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By: TomcatViP - 20th March 2017 at 23:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Russia slowly distancing itself from rebels potential actions
Source:
Forbes.com
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By: TomcatViP - 17th September 2017 at 00:05 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Malaysia, Australia, Belgium, Ukraine, Holland to sign MH17 document detailing future steps of action
Before that we had Russia handing over additional radar data
Source:
https://www.malaysiakini.com/
FlightGlobal.com
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By: TomcatViP - 19th March 2018 at 20:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Ukraine [Frogfoot] pilot blamed by Russia 'kills himself'
Sources:
The BBC.com
IBT.com
By: Anonymous - 19th March 2018 at 20:47 Permalink - Edited 10th April 2020 at 19:36
I actually missed the part about Russia claiming it was an air-to-air shootdown. Very sad this poor guy lost his life and I wouldn't be surprised if it was made to look like a suicide.
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By: TomcatViP - 21st March 2018 at 12:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
We had some mention of this in the thread. You may want to start here for a refresh.
This began after the Russian radar data showed a post shotdown contact (as emphasized by the Russian command) right after the hit airliner start to fall appart. Nothing serious came after those prompted accusations (the plane was shot down by a SAM as we all know). But it doesn't mean that no plane were ever shadowing MH17, a Frog or anything else with appropriate ECM.
By: Anonymous - 21st March 2018 at 21:56 Permalink - Edited 10th April 2020 at 19:36
Yes I don't know who they were trying to BS, the Korean Air Lines flight 007 was shot down air-to-air and took over 20 minutes to crash (R.I.P.)
And of course, one always wonders about the "truth" put out by "authorities".
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By: TomcatViP - 1st April 2018 at 23:01 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Russia denying justice to MH17 victims: PM
Source:
9News.au
By: Anonymous - 1st April 2018 at 23:34 Permalink - Edited 10th April 2020 at 19:36
The war of words by the paper tigers.
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By: TomcatViP - 4th April 2018 at 15:04 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
No sign of Buk missile on radar display: MH17: Missile could have evaded radar detection
Source:
FlightGlobal.com
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By: Loke - 24th May 2018 at 15:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44235402
More details:
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/mh17-missile-transporter-originated-from-kursk-brig-448862/
By: Anonymous - 21st June 2019 at 02:36 Permalink - Edited 10th April 2020 at 19:36
Latest news regarding 4 men charged with the shooting down of MH17. https://apnews.com/edf7789c33b645a7bd759e2bd34081d8
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By: TomcatViP - 29th June 2019 at 11:50 Permalink - Edited 6th July 2019 at 07:57
Great news but, still, it's sad that no responsibilities are charged on those that let the plane fly above a conflict zone where high altitude SAM's were spotted earlier. And it's not like they were spotted only a couple of hours before this dramatic war incident.
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By: TomcatViP - 10th July 2020 at 14:55 Permalink - Edited 10th July 2020 at 14:55
Dutch government to file suit against Russia over downing of MH17