The Australian National Aviation Museum at Moorabbin Victoria have a complete Beaufighter Mk 21 and spares and the closed to public Museum at Camden NSW also have a complete Beaufighter Mk 21 and spares , have you thought of approaching them ? There aircraft will never run or fly but the engines may be fit for rebuild , swap some restored for static engines for these?
By: Beaufighter VI
- 5th December 2019 at 09:13Permalink
Over the years have visited both Museums. When Harold Thomas was alive he was most helpful with our project.
Have crawled all over the Moorabbin aircraft, naturally they want to keep their a/c intact.
Other helpful guys have been Robert at HARS where we recently acquired gun bay doors, the Museum at Darwin where we obtained pattern flying controls and engine cowlings. Like HARS we also obtained a large amount of engine spares from SafeAir who used to overhaul the Bristol Freighter Engines.
By: adrian_gray
- 5th December 2019 at 10:42Permalink
I'm assuming anything in the bushes at Enstone, where I think big lumps of the Bristol Freighter are still in a heap, has long since been either removed or has turned to Daz?
(unlikely to be helpful, I know, but who knows what ideas might come from stuff)
By: 1batfastard
- 5th December 2019 at 14:53Permalink
Hi All,
Here's another well outside the box idea, Would any ditched Baeu's be useful ? i.e for sourcing parts that could be patterned or restored if not to corroded ? I am thinking along the lines of known ditched aircraft with not classed as a war grave, more importantly into surface water in lakes that could possibly hold off corrosion longer than salt water ?
This avenue has probably already been explored, but there used to be a Hercules (seem to remember it was a wartime type with collector ring) on display at Tangmere. It was a pristine engine on a stand and used to have it's own room near the reception desk. This was probably 15+ years ago and it wasn't there on my last visit about five years ago.
By: Beaufighter VI
- 13th December 2019 at 11:41Permalink
As with all restorations it depends on money and manpower as well as obtaining parts. In addition both projects will have a different focus and timeline determined by external influences.
The TFC focus lately has been on obtaining engine accessories and manuals to allow for their overhaul.
This weekend sees the assessment of what modifications will be required to fit original cowlings and air intake to later engines, this will also apply to the Australian aircraft.
By: Beaufighter VI
- 15th December 2019 at 13:09Permalink
Can anybody help locate FB drawings for the Beaufighter? In this series are to be found drawings for the power unit.
I do not have a British manual listing them but do have a manual for the BD43A which was the designation for the Australian built Beaufighter. It would appear that the Australian drawings were given an alternate reference. i.e. FB101128 Panel Cowl No. 1 (See A19/11190)
A good start would be FB97939 which is the drawing for the engine cowling.
By: skeeler
- 30th March 2020 at 17:59Permalink- Edited 30th March 2020 at 18:00
I have a short film of your Beaufighter on You Tube where I've asked for anybody with any possible info or leads on spares etc to assist with your rebuild. A comment has been added there as follows:-
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By: myford - 1st December 2019 at 14:50 Permalink
To be honest I was expecting someone on here to say "ah yes that one, out of a freighter, that ended up with ............
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By: 1batfastard - 3rd December 2019 at 14:32 Permalink
Hi All,
How about contacting these guys ? apologies if you have already.
http://bristol-hercules.co.uk/
Geoff.
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By: Sydhuey - 5th December 2019 at 01:39 Permalink
The Australian National Aviation Museum at Moorabbin Victoria have a complete Beaufighter Mk 21 and spares and the closed to public Museum at Camden NSW also have a complete Beaufighter Mk 21 and spares , have you thought of approaching them ? There aircraft will never run or fly but the engines may be fit for rebuild , swap some restored for static engines for these?
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By: Beaufighter VI - 5th December 2019 at 09:13 Permalink
Over the years have visited both Museums. When Harold Thomas was alive he was most helpful with our project.
Have crawled all over the Moorabbin aircraft, naturally they want to keep their a/c intact.
Other helpful guys have been Robert at HARS where we recently acquired gun bay doors, the Museum at Darwin where we obtained pattern flying controls and engine cowlings. Like HARS we also obtained a large amount of engine spares from SafeAir who used to overhaul the Bristol Freighter Engines.
Keep the thoughts coming.
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By: adrian_gray - 5th December 2019 at 10:42 Permalink
I'm assuming anything in the bushes at Enstone, where I think big lumps of the Bristol Freighter are still in a heap, has long since been either removed or has turned to Daz?
(unlikely to be helpful, I know, but who knows what ideas might come from stuff)
Posts: 3,652
By: 1batfastard - 5th December 2019 at 14:53 Permalink
Hi All,
Here's another well outside the box idea, Would any ditched Baeu's be useful ? i.e for sourcing parts that could be patterned or restored if not to corroded ? I am thinking along the lines of known ditched aircraft with not classed as a war grave, more importantly into surface water in lakes that could possibly hold off corrosion longer than salt water ?
Geoff.
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By: Ant.H - 7th December 2019 at 20:05 Permalink
This avenue has probably already been explored, but there used to be a Hercules (seem to remember it was a wartime type with collector ring) on display at Tangmere. It was a pristine engine on a stand and used to have it's own room near the reception desk. This was probably 15+ years ago and it wasn't there on my last visit about five years ago.
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By: Beaufighter VI - 13th December 2019 at 09:22 Permalink
And in Australia!
https://www.warbirdsonline.com.au/2019/12/09/beaufighter-restoration-in-australia/?fbclid=IwAR1WlzyRceW-JEv8_foL6sgvqIElO9-ExlEH2IHl3G-DikPKPtWY3uy40pQ
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By: trumper - 13th December 2019 at 10:52 Permalink
Will this adversely affect the TFC one or could there be a boost with supply to help ?
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By: Beaufighter VI - 13th December 2019 at 11:41 Permalink
As with all restorations it depends on money and manpower as well as obtaining parts. In addition both projects will have a different focus and timeline determined by external influences.
The TFC focus lately has been on obtaining engine accessories and manuals to allow for their overhaul.
This weekend sees the assessment of what modifications will be required to fit original cowlings and air intake to later engines, this will also apply to the Australian aircraft.
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By: trumper - 13th December 2019 at 20:29 Permalink
Thank you for answering and good luck :)
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By: Beaufighter VI - 15th December 2019 at 13:09 Permalink
Can anybody help locate FB drawings for the Beaufighter? In this series are to be found drawings for the power unit.
I do not have a British manual listing them but do have a manual for the BD43A which was the designation for the Australian built Beaufighter. It would appear that the Australian drawings were given an alternate reference. i.e. FB101128 Panel Cowl No. 1 (See A19/11190)
A good start would be FB97939 which is the drawing for the engine cowling.
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By: Beaufighter VI - 25th December 2019 at 10:22 Permalink
Merry Christmas to All from the Beaufighter gang.
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By: skeeler - 30th March 2020 at 17:59 Permalink - Edited 30th March 2020 at 18:00
I have a short film of your Beaufighter on You Tube where I've asked for anybody with any possible info or leads on spares etc to assist with your rebuild. A comment has been added there as follows:-
"Eirlys Happs
https://www.internalfire.com/ have a bristol hercules engine in store. they may have documents as well"
The weblink takes you to a museum website which has contact details.
Best wishes,
Steve.