More Treasures(?) From The Garage...

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Brad,

 

Have a look at this photo, from the IWM.

 

I think this is a close match to your levers, in which case we seem to have unearthed three different patterns for the B-24 so far?!

 

Unfortunately, I still can't make my levers fit with any of them, which is why I'm trying to exhaust other options such as the Boston, etc.

 

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205369270

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Well done Air Ministry looks a good match at least we know yours is some kind of bomb release quadrant and American, dare I say it I could post on the Facebook factory stamps page, or was you going to keep trying as all part of the fun I guess.

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I would be happy to put them on FB and a few other places that are likely to yield results for you Air Min if you send me the pictures. All my manuals and books are 5000 miles away unfortunately.

This forum is now a wasteland after the disastrous relaunch by Key and you will be very lucky to find the answers you want here.

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This looks like a better match.

 

The levers are in the correct juxtaposition and the quadrant looks right.  Not sure about the rivet line though.

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Is this B29 as cant seem to match the side cockpit glazing, looks pretty close

Have to agree Whitney sometimes when posting i feel its a bit of a lost cause nowadays sadly.

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It's the Boston photo I was looking for.

 

The whole point of resurrecting this thread was to guage the level of response and to decide whether it's worth persevering with it.   On the basis of the response so far, the answer is looking like "no".

 

You have no idea who (if anyone) is online at any particular time, nor what the number of views of your thread is.   On a pc I can at least see who the last poster is and when, but on my tablet I can't even see that info, meaning I have to open the thread just to see that the last poster was me, over a day before!

 

It's just too much hard work for little or no reward.

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There is a tumbleweed feeling here. I've been following this and the stick grip threads (livelier). If not here, AcrownM, where will you go, digitally speaking? Your knowledge will be sadly missed. And it's not like there are jumbles to make up for it. No worries about you, Brad, see you on that Facebook. As said many times what a shameful murder of a resource and club. 

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Not even Spitfire posts are getting any traction.Took me a few months to re sign in as wasnt sure if I wanted to..Whats upset me the most is the lost resources and info from old threads that have disappeared into the digital ether..

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Dare i say it but Facebook does have a good feedback when posting, especially certain sites, but this forum has always been my first port of call even now i visit daily hoping that the tide may turn.

Great to know your still around Ian and as you rightly say the likes of AM would be sorely missed along with many others i could mention if they decide to pull the plug on key.

But where else do you go? sadly there is nothing in comparison in regards to historic aviation. (well formerly anyway)

Like Ian says we cant even get together at he odd jumble, Key certainly isnt helping but its not to say one day you just never know,

 We live in hope.

 

Sorry for the thread drift

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Right, here's a return to another, previously illustrated item that got no response the first time around...

 

This is another relic from "that" scrap pile, so no id as to what it might be other than the clues it contains itself.

 

To me, it's an American item, an aileron trim wheel (the dial reads "WING DOWN").   I've annotated every mark I can find on it, including several I missed before.  Maybe there's now enough to positively identify it?

 

For the benefit of any new reader of this thread, the scrap pile I refer to contained an amazing selection of mainly cockpit related items - yokes, grips, rudder pedals, instrument panels, throttle boxes, plus canopies, gun turrets and masses of miscellaneous other stuff.  The majority of the scrap was British and mainly wartime, but there were a few recognisable items from B17, B24, Boston/Havoc, Mustang, Harvard, etc.  There was even a few German bits mixed in too.   There was a certain amount of post-war stuff in addition, mostly from early British jets.   The earlier entries in this thread illustrate some of it.

 

I'm not lazy when it comes to researching the id of these pieces.  I've spent countless hours trying to pin stuff down but this is one piece that has eluded me so far.  That said, I'm no expert on American cockpits and the answer might be all too simple for someone who is.

 

So, I'm posting it on the Flypast Historic Forum in the (forlorn) hope that the answer will be flagged up here but if I'm proven wrong, perhaps it's time for H66 or W-P to refer it to the Facebook Group if they're still willing?

 

 

 

 

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Hi AM

I’m happy to post this item on the factory stamps page, just let me know when you would like me to give it a go.

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The 82 prefix says B-25C or P2V according to the listings in Aviationarchaeology.com. It doesn't look to be either of them. Certainly looks American.

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Hi ian_,

 

Yes, I went down that route too but came up with nothing.

 

In terms of its size, it looks more like something from a single seater or maybe a light twin of some kind.   I've even searched in the cockpits of Link Trainers but with no results.

 

h66, go ahead on the F/b group, let's see what they can come up with.  Here's hoping!

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Will do i will stick it on now, bet i get in trouble for not showing photos of the stamps, all though you have made them clear.

Here goes.

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Hi AM

If you can post a photo of one of the stamps on the quadrant i could give that a go also.

Im pretty sure that could be identified as there are some experts on the American stuff, im sure Ian would vouch for that.

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Hi AM

Took ten mins

You pretty much had it sorted yourself

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“Yep, Aileron Trim Wheel, very similar to the one on a turboprop regional that I still work on too”! ?

“Yep, Aileron Trim Whestamps are not required any tekst , letters on a part is also fine read my annoucement!”?

 

“ALCOA iIts from a B-25  the nummer 82 gives that away!s American”

 

Also a message from the moderator saying your format was fine in the way of showing the stamps.

id like to try the quadrant as I’m sure they will nail it for you.

id love to see you on there page AM as I know you have some terrific items for I.d. and would be a great addition to the page.

Maybe a second chance ?

 

 

 

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“Example of B25 numbers , I do not have the number you have just a partial acess to the B-25 numners but these numbers  start with 82-64”

 

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“Example of B25 numbers , I do not have the number you have just a partial acess to the B-25 numners but these numbers  start with 82-64”

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Hi Brad, and thanks for your efforts on the F/B site - much appreciated.

 

We seem to be no further forward in that a positive id has not been established.   The match with B25 part numbers is intriguing though.

 

The problem I have is that a simple search on the net for B25 cockpit photos illustrates the point that the aileron trim wheel looks nothing like this one!   Is this a very early example, soon replaced by the more familiar type, or is it a special part for a modified airframe perhaps?   Hmmm, the search will have to continue.

 

Meanwhile, I've re-worked one of the (Boston?) lever photos and if you want to share it on F/B, feel free.   As I've pointed out, I cannot trace a single inspector's stamp - I hope this doesn't disqualify the piece.

 

Regards!

 

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