Egyptian Air Force Museum

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Hi,

Does anyone have contact details for the Egytpian Air Force Museum, if there is such a thing? Or any other aircraft museum in Egypt. I tried the 'net but not had much luck

I'm trying to find out more about the Lancasters used by Egypt during the later 40's early 50's.

Apart from their RAF identities I don't have much else about these aircraft except that most were destroyed during the Suez Crisis by Fleet Air Arm aircraft.

Alex

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I think the only known preserved aircraft are at War Museum at the Citadel in the centre of Cairo.
There are a PZL Wilga, Zlin Tener Master, MiG 15 and MiG 21 preserved there. Maybe you'll find some information there?

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I think the only known preserved aircraft are at War Museum at the Citadel in the centre of Cairo.
There are a PZL Wilga, Zlin Tener Master, MiG 15 and MiG 21 preserved there. Maybe you'll find some information there?

Here are the Migs 17 and 21 and the Sukhoi Su-7(edit: actually an SU-20) in January 2001.

The remains of Spitfire BR491 are on display at the El Alamein Museum

Mark

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I haven't had time to put together a full report, but there are a few photos on my aircraft museum page.

As far as I know, Albert's right that the main museum is at the Citadel near central Cairo. The photos Mark posted aren't at the Citadel, perhaps these aircraft are elsewhere or were moved to the Citadel at some point in time. The paint schemes of Mark's examples are also different than the ones I saw.

When I visited in December of 2004 the security people were absurdly touchy about letting me take camera gear in with me to what is mainly a tourist site with various mosques and so on (admittedly I had a whole bag of bodies and lenses with me). After protesting I was allowed to take most of it in, but had to leave the 100-400mm lens at the front desk.

There were certainly no Lancasters around, and the historic displays inside consisted of dioramas and bits of shot down Israeli aircraft, together with a large panel saying what a brilliant fellow some Egyptian Air Force serviceman called Hosni Mubarak was, whoever he might be! :rolleyes:

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I spent a memorable month at Cairo West airfield...a remote and well guarded military base home (at thet time...1998) of the EAF's Phantom and Hawkeye force. At the main gate was a SU. A Beagle was in front of an airport building and the remains of at least one Phantom were perched atop some oil drums. As you might guess, photos weren't allowed.

No sign of a Lancaster

The trip wasn't a total loss...roaming around the region in a C-141 was fun...as was a well guarded (by the Egyptian Secret Service) motorcade downtown.

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Ah yes. I have just had a little peek at Bob Ogden's 'Aircraft Museums and Collections of the World - Vol 11 : Africa and Australia'.

Bob lists two Museum in Cairo at the Citadel and Sh' A-Nasr addresses. My photos are from the latter, located 10 Km north east of the city centre on the airport road.

That Sukhoi of mine is actually an Su-20 it would seem.

The El Alamein Museum is not listed but the book was written before the installation of the Spitfire.

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I do know that the Egyptians operated some Halifaxes until the fifties. Never knew they used Lancs, but then again I never bothered to check the latter :diablo:

Cheers

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A Beagle was in front of an airport building

Sorry, but what type of Beagle: unless it really was a dog its a bit like saying so-and-so airfield has a Hawker out the front, without realising all the types made by that manufacturer. I am willing to bet it wasn't a Basset...;) - Nermal

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Not 'Rover' again. :)

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Sorry, but what type of Beagle: unless it really was a dog its a bit like saying so-and-so airfield has a Hawker out the front, without realising all the types made by that manufacturer. I am willing to bet it wasn't a Basset...;) - Nermal

I would imagine an Ilyushin Il-28 Beagle.

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looks like we are safe from Rover for a while. And MG.

I'll get my coat. Rather like another batch of workers. :(

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[QUOTE=Nermal]Sorry, but what type of Beagle: ]

So sorry, an Il-28 Beagle.
I momentarily forgot about the UK Beagle.
However, I do own two Bassets...of the four legged variety.

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Not 'Rover' again. :)

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shouldn't it be "over" not "Rover"?

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I do know that the Egyptians operated some Halifaxes until the fifties. Never knew they used Lancs, but then again I never bothered to check the latter :diablo:

Cheers

Cees

They also used the Stirling as well. I have details of the Stirling and Halifax in Egyptian service but very little on the Lanc.

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The photos Mark posted aren't at the Citadel, perhaps these aircraft are elsewhere or were moved to the Citadel at some point in time. The paint schemes of Mark's examples are also different than the ones I saw.

Correct.
These photos were taken at the "Panorama 6. October" right outside the airport.
The aircraft there were not removed from the display at the citadel but are other ones.

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Just adding to this old post
The 'Egyptian AF Museum is at Almaza AB, next to Cairo Airport
Album here https://www.flickr.com/photos/elaref/albums/72157720052589741/with/5161…

There are supposedly 5 aircraft in and around the 6th October Museum with 3 mounted pointing skywards and visible from the road
1776        IL-28    Preserved about 1km from the Cairo Panorama Museum at the Presidential Guard barracks. Visible from outside               
2961        MiG-17  Preserved 6th October War Panorama museum, Cairo.   
2962        MiG-17 Preserved 6th October War Panorama museum, Cairo.   Location??
7771        Su-20   Preserved 6th October War Panorama museum, Cairo.   
8040       MiG-21 Preserved 6th October War Panorama museum, Cairo.   

Then the Citadel (National Military Museum) has

2481                  MiG-17F    As 752    
5908                 MiG-21F As 658    
254/SU-AVE    PZL 104-35A    As 42    
7320                  Su-7BMK    As 803    
621                     Yak-18A    As 46    
...                         Z-226    As 61

and a Gomhouria? (License built Bucker Bestmann)