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By: - 12th January 2005 at 17:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I promised some weeks back to scan this photo for Melvyn Hiscock, and some others here showed an interest too, but I've only just gotten the book to a scanner.It comes from 'Aircraft of the Royal New Zealand Air Force' by David Duxbury, Ross Ewing and Ross Macpherson. It shows an RNZAF impressed Rearwin of No. 42 Squadron, in what was obviously a privately taken photo. The wear is not from the book or the scan but obviously on the original print they used.
Also seen are an Oxford, Rapide and some Harvards, probably all attached to No. 42 Squadron at RNZAF Station Rongotai, which was a utility squadron with a varied mix of civil and military planes.
I am adding in scans of the heading and write-up too for extra info.
I hope this is of some interest.
That is great. I would like to see the reaction if Shipping and Airlines (who own G-AOEF) were to repaint her like this! I am going to contact Eric Rearwin and let him know about this.
Thanks Dave, that (and the PM) are most appreicated.
You are spared the next round of slagging off at Popham!! (not that you featured yet . . . )
M
By: - 12th January 2005 at 22:12 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There are photos of other impressed aircraft in the book including a Porterfield and a Waco, with virtually the same colour scheme so I think all four Rearwins would have worn that same style of scheme. I'd think it was along the lines of RAF Dark Green/Dark Earth which was standard 'at home' scheme for the first part of the war. Later when paint became very scarce most aircraft in the RNZAF received schemes in locally made paint that was a slightly different dark green and a unique blue-grey colour, as seen on the Hudson at the RNZAF Museum. As this was applied to Hudsons, Harvards, Oxfords, Ansons, Tiger Moths.... I cannot see why it may not have also been applied to the impressed fleet. I am not sure, just guessing, but if so that's an even more unusual scheme. The RNZAF Museum will probably know for sure and probably have more Rearwin photos if you contact them too.
By: - 18th June 2005 at 04:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Another RNZAF Rearwin Photo
Hi Melvyn,
Attached is another RNZAF Rearwin photo that I discovered in "RNZAF - The First Decade" by Charles Darby.
The caption reads:
"Upper: The 21 (AC) Squadron Rearwin 9000KR NZ529 seen at Milson in mid-1943 with Flg Off Pat Molloy, at left, and a colleague."
Looks rather lovely, doesn't it?
By: - 18th June 2005 at 10:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Nice little aeroplane.
Thanks for that Dave, this time I have remembered to post the link to Eric Rearwin who looks after the site.
By: - 18th June 2005 at 19:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Melvyn, what prompted u to choose the red livery for your bird? ever thought of a military one? :)
Alex
By: - 18th June 2005 at 21:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Melvyn, what prompted u to choose the red livery for your bird? ever thought of a military one? :)Alex
Although mine was owned by the Strategic Air Command Flying Club at one point, they didn't fly it. The red was the colours it left the factory on October 12, 1939
M
By: - 18th June 2005 at 21:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Oh, and as far as I know no standard Cloudsters carried military markings. Some instrument trainers might have but I don't think the others did.
By: - 19th June 2005 at 12:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
U definitely made a superb job with yr Rearwin mate :-)
I think I've never seen the interiors, do u have some pics of it? Sorry if I'm invading yr privacy ;)
Alex
By: - 19th June 2005 at 12:49 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Moderator calling.
"No 'text' please we're British"
Mark
By: - 19th June 2005 at 12:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
superb!! I particularly enjoyed the pitot cover :D
The joke for Mr. Patterson was really nasty!! ;)
Alex
By: - 19th June 2005 at 13:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I can't believe I missed all the other stuff in the links mentioned earlier. God that is one lovely looking machine both in shape and the excellent job of restoring her to her former glory. Better than new comes to mind.
By: - 19th June 2005 at 18:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I can't believe I missed all the other stuff in the links mentioned earlier. God that is one lovely looking machine both in shape and the excellent job of restoring her to her former glory. Better than new comes to mind.
Thanks Mike, most 'precieated!
Had a good day today, I was at North Weald for a while but wanted to get over to meet a friend (yes I do have one or two) at Rochester. I was glad I went there, they need supporting (not that North Weald doesn't too). Peter T brought the Spitfire through just as we were leaving.
It was good fun.
M
By: - 20th June 2005 at 09:01 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Glad you had a nice day. I would think the air was a bit lumpy though with all that heat to create thermals. BTW what engine is in your aircraft? I only ask because I know nothing about them, though I think I might just recognise one if I saw it having seen all these photos.
By: - 20th June 2005 at 10:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Mine has a 145 Warner (pause to listen to Bank Manager in Southampton screaming) and it is a great engine apart form the fact there is no oil recirculation for the rockers and so what goes in the lower ones goes down the fuselage.
This aeroplane was started with a 90hp Ken Royce, like on the Rearwin Sportster, but mine was converted on the line to take a 120 Ken Royce. The first two Cloudsters flew with 90hp engines and they were underpowered. Mine is no 3. The fourth one also had a 90hp and that is still around. That is a lot of aeroplane for 90 horses!
Mine had a 125hp Warner in 1957 and then the 145 in 1968. That engine then went off to fly on the Avro 504 replica that is in New Zealand and I bought the remains as 'airworthy just needs new engine' which all the paperwork supported. Sadly the condition was not as good as that and previous rebuilds had been a little careless. 12 years later I turn up at North Weald!
There did used to be a 8135T Cloudster which is a two seater tandem instrument trainer but that went back to the US about ten years ago so mine is the only one in Europe.
By: - 20th June 2005 at 21:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks Melvyn. Thanks to this forum I am slowly learning about this fabulous looking machine and other historical machines. I have always been an aviation enthusiast but only recently (last 10 years or so) became the fanatic I am today
By: - 20th June 2005 at 22:11 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Melv
I posted this Pic taken at the Historic Aircraft Restoration Museum, Creve Coeur, Missouri. You havent insulted me so I assume you missed it.
I think they nicked your paint.
By: - 20th June 2005 at 22:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
MelvI posted this Pic taken at the Historic Aircraft Restoration Museum, Creve Coeur, Missouri. You havent insulted me so I assume you missed it.
I think they nicked your paint.
Didn't mean to not insult you. I did see it but with life being hectic and all the flying I have done . . .
The paint looks a tad bluer than mine but they bought in bulk, there were no flies on the Rearwins! Ken told me a great story about he and Dwayne Wallace of Cessna would buy steel tube in one go to save 10c a foot!
My friend Russ Williams (google on Williams Aircraft Collection - nice gut too) has a Sportster. If I ever pay off the debts from the Rearwin I might try to go back to the US of A, perhaps when I retire, and go fly it.
M
By: - 20th June 2005 at 23:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
and all the flying I have done . . .
Tart!!!
By: - 20th June 2005 at 23:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Tart!!!
Back on the ground now with more brake problems!
By: - 21st June 2005 at 19:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
U definitely made a superb job with yr Rearwin mate :-)
I think I've never seen the interiors, do u have some pics of it? Sorry if I'm invading yr privacy ;)Alex
Was down there today taking photos of the brakes so that I can finally rid myself of them!
Did this while I was there.
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By: Dave Homewood - 12th January 2005 at 10:06 - Edited 2nd October 2019 at 11:40
I promised some weeks back to scan this photo for Melvyn Hiscock, and some others here showed an interest too, but I've only just gotten the book to a scanner.
It comes from 'Aircraft of the Royal New Zealand Air Force' by David Duxbury, Ross Ewing and Ross Macpherson. It shows an RNZAF impressed Rearwin of No. 42 Squadron, in what was obviously a privately taken photo. The wear is not from the book or the scan but obviously on the original print they used.
Also seen are an Oxford, Rapide and some Harvards, probably all attached to No. 42 Squadron at RNZAF Station Rongotai, which was a utility squadron with a varied mix of civil and military planes.
I am adding in scans of the heading and write-up too for extra info.
I hope this is of some interest.