FI: Boeing studies 787-10

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This plane will compete directly with the 777-200/200ER.
But Boeing says at this point:
"Better commit suicide with B787-10, than get murdered by the A359." ;) :D

Boeing studies 787 double-stretch
Flight International online news 08:30GMT: Boeing is studying new stretch and heavier-weight versions of the 787 in an effort to secure key strategic customers, as it evaluates ways to dramatically ramp up the twinjet’s planned production rate.

The manufacturer is looking at a further stretch of the 787-9, dubbed the -10, to try to win business from Emirates, which has been discussing a large order for the competing Airbus A350. The -9 is an enlarged version of the -8 baseline long-haul 787 variant.

The Dubai-based operator has consistently asked Boeing to study higher-capacity versions of the -9, but the manufacturer has been reluctant to extend its new twin much beyond a tri-class, 259-passenger configuration for fear of encroaching on the 777-200ER.

Boeing declines to comment on the existence of the -10 study, which is believed to extend overall length to almost 68m (223ft), or well beyond the 62m currently outlined for the -9 stretch.

This is expected to allow tri-class layouts of almost 290 passengers, although it would entail a range penalty, with a resulting performance below the 15,400km (8,300nm) envisioned for the 787-9.
The relatively simple stretch option is considered feasible from a production standpoint because of the inherent flexibility of the composite fuselage design.

Boeing also declines to comment on a proposed 247.5t (545,000lb) maximum take-off weight variant of the -9 thought to have been proposed to Qantas, which has issued a request for proposals for a 767-300 replacement.

The higher gross-weight variant proposal, if confirmed, takes it well beyond the 226.8t limit originally outlined for the -9 variant, and brings it close to the theoretical 255t MTOW design limit of the baseline structural configuration.

Meanwhile, Boeing confirms studies of a radical production ramp-up that could see up to 14 aircraft a month rolling out of the Everett site by 2011. The current plan would see the rate peak at seven a month by mid-2009. The new plan is to cope with orders and commitments for the new twinjet that are now said to exceed 850.

Indonesian flag carrier Garuda Indonesia has agreed to acquire 10 787-8s and 18 737-800s, coinciding with a state visit to the USA by Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono. Garuda says the agreement is a “further elaboration” of a long-deferred contract for 777-200ERs.

GUY NORRIS/LOS ANGELES

SOURCE: Flight International

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Good read.! Lets see how it goes..

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Hmm, I didn't realize Guy Norris was a journalist! I did enjoy his 777 books.

Anyhow, I hope to see it done, though it's mind-boggling the ramifications: if the 787-10 replaces the 772, then you'd assume a brand-new airplane (eg not the 787-11) would replace the 773, but just to replace the 773 with a whole new airplane seems silly -- so would you figure that Boeing would have the 787 family (-3, -8, -9, -10), and a replacement for the 773 AND the 744 both?

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I think it is not beneficial to stretch the MTOW to its maximum. Boeing is scoring at the moment by having a small aircraft, smaller than the A350. Maybe they should stick to this and by happy about the the great success they had this year. On the long run a 787-stretch maybe useful to offer it to airlines with large 787-fleets. But I gues nobody will buy Boeing just because of the B787-10.