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By: 24th November 2005 at 20:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Contact anyone that opperates a Spitfire, they may be able to help. But i would guess that their examples take off distance may be shorter than in ww11.
By: 24th November 2005 at 20:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Hello Guys,I'm gathering info about the Spitfire. Of course a lot can be found at several places, but I can not find the minimum lenght of runway that is required to take off and land a spitfire.
Does someone have this info about Spitfire MKI, MKII, MKV, MKVIII and MKIX.
Greets,
Stieglitz
Stieg.
From The Spitfire Story (Alfred Price), for the first production Spitfire MkI, K9787:
Take-off run (zero wind) - 420yds
Distance to clear 50ft screen - 720yds
Landing run (with brakes) - 380yds
Spitfire MkI K9793 - 7th production Spitfire fitted with the de Havilland 3-blade, two-pitch metal airscrew:
Take-off run (zero wind) - 320yds
Distance to clear 50ft screen - 490yds
Landing run (with brakes) - 235yds
Spitfire IIa - first production machine built at Castle Bromwich:
Take-off run - 230yds (although this does not state if it was in zero wind!)
Distance to clear 50ft screen - 400yds
Landing run - 350yds
I'd look into Spitfire - The History for you, but I need to do something else! Sorry! :o
Hope this helps, anyway.
By: 25th November 2005 at 11:12 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Thanks Ollie and Daz.
This is a good start. I shall contact some operators for further info.
Cheers,
Stieglitz
By: 25th November 2005 at 12:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I would imagine as i said the modern distance may be different as they are proberably lighter or even heavier with the de millitrisation and fitting of modern radios etc that they require.
By: 25th November 2005 at 12:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I would imagine that, since most Spits these days fly without guns, which are pretty weighty, then it would be a slightly shorter distance.
However, there was some discussion a while back (originated by me) as to whether a Spit could get off in fifty yards. Here's the link:
By: 25th November 2005 at 12:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-But then they carry modern radios and saftey gear which then adds to the weight. And then the person (must stay politicaly correct) flying it.
By: 25th November 2005 at 12:33 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Maybe with a good steam catapult, a contra rotating prop, and a ski jump it may get 50 yards. The one at the shuttleworth collection gets airbourne fairly fast. But compared to most things they fly it is a very long run.
By: 25th November 2005 at 12:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-But then they carry modern radios and saftey gear which then adds to the weight. And then the person (must stay politicaly correct) flying it.
Modern radios - presumably smaller, hence lighter? I've no idea, having never had cause to inspect one fitted to a Spit. I just like to look at the cover ;)
Modern safety gear - such as? :confused:
But, again, Spits these days are probably lighter since they don't carry weapons stores or a full tank of fuel...?
By: 25th November 2005 at 13:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-True i didnt think about fuel and ammo etc.
Safety gear, Extinguisher system maybe? backup radio.
I dont know about radios either realy as ive never looked into them.
Okay i guess they are lighter now.
By: 25th November 2005 at 13:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Why would they not carry a full tank of fuel???????? Some even have extra fuel tanks in the gunbays.....
By: 25th November 2005 at 13:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Depends on the operator and how far they are going and how long they are flying for i suppose.
By: 25th November 2005 at 13:55 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Why would they not carry a full tank of fuel???????? Some even have extra fuel tanks in the gunbays.....
I was assuming for local flights - there are all kinds of variables for this topic.
By: 25th November 2005 at 16:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Don't forget the take-off run is affected by:
ground surface condition (long wet grass needs a longer run than dry tarmac)
wind (a take-off into a strong wind is shorter than nil wind or a cross wind)
temperature (a hot day requires a longer run)
slope (uphill = longer)
By: 25th November 2005 at 17:01 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Meteor Runway runway info please?
Okay, can anyone tell me if it is safe to operate a Meteor (F8 or T7) from a 4,000ft hard runway?
By: 25th November 2005 at 17:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-theres lots of Spitfire data to astound/bore your friends with here... :rolleyes:
http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spittest.html
Neil
By: 25th November 2005 at 18:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Great link Guzzineil! I'll get bored now ... :D
Thanks a lot!
Stieglitz
By: 25th November 2005 at 22:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-A Legends full aero's display with full wings (50 galls= 50 lbs-ish)
Mmmm, decimal point moved there a bit. More like 300 lbs. Isn't it about 6 lbs a gallon for fuel?
By: 26th November 2005 at 13:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Philip Rhodes, ref Meatbox; it would be very imprudent to try and operate-safely, off anything less than 5-5500 ft of hard runway, particularly today,in terms of performance,risk etc.6000 ft would be better,as Meteors have pneumatic brakes ,which tend to fade easily,don`t have anti-skid,and spares are difficult to get.Even J-Provosts/L-29,L-39 s are operated off a minimum of 1500m. Syc........
By: 31st August 2010 at 18:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-theres lots of Spitfire data to astound/bore your friends with here... :rolleyes:http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spittest.html
Neil
This info says Mk XIV needed 760 yards of landing strip to clear 50 ft.
How much heavier was XVIII for instance ?
By: 31st August 2010 at 21:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Do the Spitfires of today use the same amount of power from the engines to take off or are they restricted slightly as not to over stress/wear them out.
Is the fuel better now than in the war?.
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By: Stieglitz - 24th November 2005 at 19:25
Hello Guys,
I'm gathering info about the Spitfire. Of course a lot can be found at several places, but I can not find the minimum lenght of runway that is required to take off and land a spitfire.
Does someone have this info about Spitfire MKI, MKII, MKV, MKVIII and MKIX.
Greets,
Stieglitz