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By: 25th January 2006 at 12:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Very interesting. I notice that there is nothing in there about improving their customer service standards... :p
By: 25th January 2006 at 12:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I was talking to AndrewM last night, and we agreed how it was quite obvious that Ryanair were going to go down the "pay for baggage" route pretty quickly. When FlyBe announced an identical policy a few months back, Ryanair did not produce a vitriolic press release, and make a big song and dance about it in all their marketing. Given Ryanair never miss an opportunity for publicity, it was fairly clear they were going to introduce this.
Personally I think easyJet will adopt a similar policy too, particularly online checkin. I'm not sure whether they will imediatley start charging for baggage so as to give them a Unique Selling Point over Ryanair and FlyBe.
By: 25th January 2006 at 12:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Hmmm.... this must be a new and unfamiliar definition of the word "revolutionary".
I wonder whether Mr O'Leary and his colleagues are familiar with the word "hyperbole"?
By: 25th January 2006 at 12:38 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Hmmm "Revolutionise European Air Travel"?
The reducing fares claim is a little, well, misleading, for a company with a fare structure like they have. If I've flown with them it's usually been 1p or 99p + 'charges'. Is that now going to be -£2.49 or -£1.51 + charges?
Would "Ryanair are second airline to start charging for baggage" be a far better and more accurate description?
By: 25th January 2006 at 15:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-checked in luggage who book after 16th March will now pay a fee of £2.50 (€3.50) per bag, per flight if booked in advance on the website, or £5.00 (€7.00) per bag, per flight if presented unbooked at the airport
Con of the Century! £5!
Online check-in is good though. I'm not sure how they can prove they are actually reducing fares by 9% though when they already sell seats for nothing+tax? Unless they are reducing the tax and charges?
Not exact revolutionary anyway...
By: 25th January 2006 at 16:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I quite like the ideas to be honest.
Next thing is prices to be based on approximate weight of passenger, though whether that would get through the politcal correctness council or the anti-discrimination brigade I don't know.
At least we're heading towards a system where the passengers that generate the cost pay for it in fares, and those that don't, don't. A possible end to cross subsidisation maybe?
By: 25th January 2006 at 16:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-whether that would get through the politcal correctness council or the anti-discrimination brigade I don't know.
I dunno either, but I'm sure Ryanair would be willing to fight it all the way in the courts to find out.
By: 25th January 2006 at 17:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I hate passengers who bring too much cabin luggage as it is. Watch it get worse.
By: 25th January 2006 at 17:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I am in full favour of all these ideas, web check is a superb idea, especially for an airline who does not have allocated seating. Anyone know when this will be introduced, and how far in advance you can check in? And as someone who only flies low costs for a short break (Normally a day), I totally agree with charging for baggage for people that use it.
Good on Ryanair!
By: 25th January 2006 at 18:46 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I'm not sure how giving web check-in passengers priority boarding " will also eliminate boarding gate queues"
Doesn't it just mean you would be at the front of the queue, while those who had the cheek to check-in a bag would be stuck at the back.
As by738 says just watch the handluggage grow.
1L.
By: 25th January 2006 at 19:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I dunno either, but I'm sure Ryanair would be willing to fight it all the way in the courts to find out.
Nono its quite alright to positively discriminate against the overweight, gives them an incentive to get fitter. Thats the way the NHS seems to be moving anyway.
Whoops, another thread verring towards GD :p
By: 25th January 2006 at 19:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Nono its quite alright to positively discriminate against the overweight, gives them an incentive to get fitter. Thats the way the NHS seems to be moving anyway.Whoops, another thread verring towards GD :p
As a thin person I would have to agree.
By: 25th January 2006 at 19:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Nono its quite alright to positively discriminate against the overweight, gives them an incentive to get fitter. Thats the way the NHS seems to be moving anyway.Blimmin' students! :pWhoops, another thread verring towards GD
Sizeist remarks are hardly likely to endear you to this Mod........... :diablo:
Do try and keep this thread on-topic, chaps. :rolleyes:
By: 26th January 2006 at 12:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I wonder what that nasty little man in Ireland will think of next (or copy next)?
Whilst I accept on-line checkin is generally a good idea, charging for checked baggage is NOT. Online checkin will not, however, as Ryanair claim alleviate boarding gate queues but merely change the order in which people stand in them.
Pay-for-baggage will merely result in more people trying to cram more stuff into overhead bins to avoid the charge, making the entire boarding/deboarding experience much less pleasant for everyone.
Whilst the claim of reducing fares is laudible, just like their claim that they do not have a fuel charge, it is misleading as Ryanair do not publish fares or have fare caps - it is thus impossible to tell whether they have reduced fares and in fact they can increase average fares invisibly simply by limiting the number of reduced fares available. Finally though, I do look forward to Ryanair reducing the price of its £0.99 tickets by £2.50 - it would seem reasonable to assume that they will now PAY THE PASSENGER £1.51 for buying such a ticket! :diablo:
I suspect that much of this will be revenue positive for Ryanair - many passengers will either buy the "check in baggage" in advance just to be sure, and then on the day of travel if they find they don't need checked bags I suspect Ryanair won't be giving any refunds... Or they won't buy the checked bag option thinking they can make do with carry on, and then on the day find they need to take a checked bag and will get stiffed for £5.00 instead of £2.50.
Well done Ryanair - you seem to be determined to make the entire travel experience less pleasant and more stressful, and you continue to find ways to extract more money from your most vulnerable customers - those who do not travel regularly. OLCI is a good idea but won't achieve what you say - as for the rest, I never have travelled with Ryanair and this just decreases the likelihood that I ever will.
Andy
By: 27th January 2006 at 00:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-RYANAIR TO REVOLUTIONISE EUROPEAN AIR TRAVEL
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By: 27th January 2006 at 01:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-best pic anyones produced on these forums yet ;)
By: 27th January 2006 at 10:04 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I wonder how long it will take MoL to start chrging the use of the Bathroom !!!!!
By: 27th January 2006 at 11:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Another factor maybe will be that since Ryanair could potentially use their own staff from the aircraft for everything bar checkin staff thus meaning the airports are really only getting income from landing fees and pax charges plus what the people buy. I am sure for smaller regional airports out of the way who use their own staff for handling this may be a large reduction in the money coming in?? Maybe this will mean FR will find it harder to get smaller airports when they expand (probably into Eastern Europe)????
By: 28th January 2006 at 02:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I just thought that i would mention that ryanair never said that they were going to reduce fares by 2.50 they said that they will reduce fares by 9% which for a .99 ticket will equal about .09 drop not 2.50.
I live in the US and if there were fares like that here i would be flying all the time. the cheapest fare in the country i doubt goes below 30 dollars. so what ever works in my opinion.
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By: lbaspotter - 25th January 2006 at 12:03
Here it is the big revolution from Ryanair.com announced today.