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By: 20th November 2007 at 11:49 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Lancaster VII's, Lincolns I believe. There is a Lanc in Australia that still has one fitted IIRC.
Cheers
Cees
By: 23rd November 2007 at 09:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Thanks
Thanks for that - I'll check it out....
By: 23rd November 2007 at 12:51 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Can anyone let me know what aircraft these turrets were used in?
British Aircraft Armament Vol 1, R Wallace Clarke (again) Was a new turret, designed to take the heavier .5in Browning MGs (x2):
HP Halifax B.VII, Avro Lincoln; Shackleton Mr.1.
Could take AGLT 'Village Inn'. (Airborne Gun Laying Turret radar blind tracking.)
"Several type D Turrets still exist, many having been rebuilt by enthusiasts. A prime example can be seen at the RAF Museum at Hendon where it is exhibited on a stand."
Certainly G for George at the Australian War Memorial doesn't have one; so I presume Cees is thinking of the Lancaster in WA?
http://www.raafawa.org.au/wa/museum/lanc/history.htm
Noted as being fitted originally with a Nash & Thompson .5 Browning turret set.
By: 23rd November 2007 at 20:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I need to update the list, but I currently have 4 shown on the Boulton Paul website preservation page: www.boultonpaul.com then click on preservation or direct link: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/markansell/bpa/preserved/preserved.html
Type D Turret
in Lincoln RF398 Aerospace Museum, Cosford
in Lincoln RE408 Argentina
on display stand Aerospace Museum, Cosford
under restoration Sywell Aviation Museum
Mark
By: 25th November 2007 at 09:04 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The Lancaster at the War Memorial in Canberra (Australia) has a Fraser Nash FN121 Rear Turret. (ok, maybe an FN120..)
But, what exactly is the turret on the Lancaster in Western Australia??
(I hope the photographers don't mind me using their pictures?)
Boulton Paul Type D Turret, thanks to Mark Ansell's website:
Fraser Nash FN82 Turret on Lancaster NX611 in UK:
Rear Turret on Lancaster NX622 in Western Australia:
It seems the WA turret looks like a Boulton Paul Type D on top (upper cupola), BUT EXACTLY like the FN82 on the bottom (actual turret structure). I suggest it may be a modified FN82. Any other ideas?
By: 25th November 2007 at 10:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Interesting, Linrey.
Both NX611 and NX622 are ex-Aeronavalle Lancasters. What period their current turrets date back to I don't know, except the WA machine was donated by the French 'with armament fitted'. It would be reasonable to expect that the French had updated their turrets. But maybe not.
Presumably the Cosford turret is the same one as Clarke mentions as being (presumably previously) at Hendon?
Regards,
By: 27th November 2007 at 13:11 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-We have one on display and the APs if needed....
TT
By: 27th November 2007 at 15:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-It's those ugly flat panels on NX611's cupola that makes it look different.
My money is on a repair, due to the original double curved panels having been damaged at some stage. It may even be vandal damage since its arrival in the UK, perhaps when on display at Blackpool?
Does anyone have photos of its turret when it first arrived back in this country?
By: 30th April 2008 at 21:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-this is an fn82 with fairings over the draught excluders under the guns.
By: 30th April 2008 at 21:33 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Yes this turret has been repaired with straight panels added,probably due to damage on the front perspex curves,my cupola is damaged in the same areas and making a pair (handed) of replacements with compound curves is a daunting task as the perpex panels are quite large.
By: 26th January 2020 at 11:48 Permalink
-Hi
Just bumping up this thread
Would anyone have anything else to add in regards to the Boulton Paul D type rear gun turret, ie photos along aircraft variants, it has been mentioned above that the likes of the Avro Lincoln, Halifax B V11s, Lancaster V11s , Shackleton Mr1 were fitted with the D type.
Would anyone have any images to back this up? the reason being i have a rear turret door that i would like to see in situ, if not it may be a visit to Cosford as the D type turret there appears to have both turret doors fitted.
Many thanks in advance
By: 30th January 2020 at 20:23 Permalink
-Hi Hawker 1966
I am trying to help a friend to restore a D type turret and as you can see from the photo its not to healthy so I know he would be intrested in any parts to help its restoration .the other photo is of a D type that's on display at RAF Cosford hopefully this will answer your question with regard to the origin of your door?
By: 4th February 2020 at 19:45 Permalink
-Hi ballturret
Thank you for the two photos they are very much appreciated, i have the right hand door as you look at it, once i can work out how to send images i will send a couple of photos of mine of which is made of wood.
Would you be able to confirm the aircraft variants that the D type fitted?
Also good luck with your project as im pretty sure the D type is extremely rare and would be great to see another one restored.
By: 12th February 2020 at 20:18 Permalink
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By: Historic Flying - 19th November 2007 at 21:10
Can anyone let me know what aircraft these turrets were used in? I understand that late model Halifaxes (B VIIs) & A (Xs) did? What else?
Cheers
David