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By: 5th November 2008 at 21:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Interesting that Mourino was originally Spanish before taking up Mexican nationality.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j-K-hAlJ07sX3xQ5xH6QZccbTMegD948LN200
By: 5th November 2008 at 22:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-It seems odd to me that the CAA would be involved...since neither the airframe or powerplants were of U.K. manufacture (but Shorts did subcontract work on Lears).
Any theories?
Don't they trust the NTSB?
Or did the CAA guys just want a trip to a sunny climate?
By: 6th November 2008 at 17:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Maybe a similarity to the Biggin crash?:confused:
By: 7th November 2008 at 05:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Update:
Black Boxes From Plane Crash Probed After Speculation Over Drug Cartel InvolvementThursday , November 06, 2008
Associated Press (via Fox News)
MEXICO CITY —
Two flight recorders from a plane crash that killed Mexico's No. 2 government official were sent to the U.S. for examination, officials said Thursday, amid widespread speculation — but no evidence — that drug cartels were to blame.Both "black boxes" were found where the Learjet 45 slammed into rush-hour traffic in a posh Mexico City neighborhood, Transportation Secretary Luis Tellez said at a news conference. Five people on the ground and nine people on the plane were killed in Tuesday's crash, including Interior Secretary Juan Camilo Mourino.
Officials say they have few clues why the plane suddenly dropped from the evening sky.
But they have been unusually open in publicizing details of the investigation, trying to discourage conspiracy theories that thrive in a country on edge from relentless news of drug-related shootings, kidnappings and beheadings. The violence has surged during a two-year-old army and police offensive to wrest control from drug cartels.
The 37-year-old Mourino, one of President Felipe Calderon's closest confidants, was Mexico's equivalent of vice president and domestic security chief. Also on the plane was former anti-drug prosecutor Jose Luis Santiago Vasconcelos, who had been the target of at least one assassination attempt.
"Nobody is more interested than me in the truth emerging and the cause of this incident being cleared up," Calderon said at a memorial ceremony for the dead.
Tellez said experts would need at least a week to analyze the plane's voice and data recorders for clues to what went wrong.
The crash occurred in clear weather, and in their last recorded radio conversation, the plane's flight crew calmly discussed radio frequencies and speed with controllers. The tape went silent just as radar lost the plane's altitude reading.
"Everything was normal on the flight, and a few seconds before the accident, something happened that significantly altered" the situation, said Gilberto Lopez, a pilot overseeing the probe. "At this moment, all the possibilities are potentially important."
He said experts are following the normal lines of investigation for any crash, including possible human error, mechanical failures, maintenance problems or turbulence caused by other aircraft.
Experts from the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board, the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration and Britain's Civil Aviation Authority are in Mexico helping with the investigation.
In an editorial Thursday, El Universal newspaper urged people to wait for results of the investigation before jumping to conclusions. But it also noted that Mexico's "history is filled with assassinations that have never been cleared up or whose resolution does not deserve the trust of public opinion."
By: 7th November 2008 at 16:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-It would seem that the inclusion of American and British crash detectives is to give credibility to the investigation and counter any suggestions of a cover up.
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-fg-mexico7-2008nov07,0,3410396.story
By: 7th November 2008 at 18:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The UK CAA is not involved.
The UK Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) was invited to assist.
The AAIB is part of the Department for Transport and investigates the causes of accidents. It does not aportion blame. The AAIB has no connection with the CAA, which is a legislative body.
By: 9th November 2008 at 08:49 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-CNN reporting that an engine fell off the plane before the crash. Surprising that it takes four days for this important piece of evidence to appear.:confused:
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/11/08/mexico.crash/index.html
By: 15th November 2008 at 13:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Unqualified pilots and wake turbulence according to the NTSB.
By: 15th November 2008 at 16:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Unqualified pilots and wake turbulence according to the NTSB.
Odd article, this: the headline quotes the NTSB and the text quotes the Mexican Government. Isn't it also highly unusual to release CVR information? Seems to fall back on the old standby of blaming the pilots, too. Sounds like the NTSB (or whoever) have excelled themselves.
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By: Flying-A - 5th November 2008 at 20:43
Fears that Mexico's turmoil has spread to the sky: