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By: - 26th January 2009 at 15:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I certainly hope the Tempest finds a good home! Maybe the good folks at Hawker restorations..? Ill get me coat!
By: - 26th January 2009 at 15:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
'Outstanding condition'
Not how I remember it - it was stored at HFL for some time in the nineties. Some of the work left a lot to be desired, although some of it was very good!
Bruce
By: - 26th January 2009 at 15:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Some people will tell you this is an 'unlucky' machine- once owned by the late Nick Grace and then the fellow who got murdered.....
It seems to have regressed, judging from the picture in the advert.
Sorry-this photo is MW763, numbers easily transposed:o
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By: - 26th January 2009 at 15:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Could it be dismantled for easier storage? How far did the restoration get?
By: - 26th January 2009 at 15:38 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Wrong aeroplane - the one in the picture above is still in that state.
Bruce
By: - 26th January 2009 at 15:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The Tempest is in France, correct?:confused:
By: - 26th January 2009 at 15:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
If you open the pdf, it confirms it's in France.
By: - 26th January 2009 at 15:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes, but the one shown painted up, assembled and covered is in Lincolnshire.
Bruce
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By: - 26th January 2009 at 15:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
OK now I am confused, so the one that is for sale is not the same one that is shown on it's gear then??
By: - 26th January 2009 at 16:09 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
No
By: - 26th January 2009 at 16:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Is this the one that parts were stolen from the restorers some years ago, I think cowlings etc
By: - 26th January 2009 at 18:04 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Whereabouts in France is MW376 at present?
By: - 26th January 2009 at 18:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I don't know where it is in France but perhaps an E-Mail to the vendors in post #1 might elicit some information?
By: - 26th January 2009 at 19:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The Tempest was part of the late Philippe Denis collection.
The project was initially located at Romans-sur-Isère but according the latest WD, MW376 is now stored at Valence between Lyon and Marseille.
By: - 26th January 2009 at 19:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Propstrike - The Tempest was indeed owned at one stage by Nick Grace and business partner. It was purchased by a syndicate before being sold to the late David Martin who sadly I last spoke to in December 1992. It then passed to Phillipe Denis who later died.
There doesn't thankfully appear to be any correlation in the 'unlucky' bit. David Martin died as a result of a business dispute in no what related to the Tempest - Nick Grace died in a car accident and Phillipe Denis from a heart attack. Non of these events seems to relate to ownership of the Tempest.
I think the aircraft isn't unlucky - the owners are.
By: - 26th January 2009 at 20:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I think the aircraft isn't unlucky - the owners are.
I take your point, but I have decided not to risk it.
By: - 26th January 2009 at 21:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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heres the pic from the sale site of MW376 in dissassembled condition
regards
Mark Pilkington
By: - 27th January 2009 at 08:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
MW376
This surely represents a good project for someone to consider doing a flying re-build on?
I don't know the cost, but surely an unfinished project like this represents the best oportunity to pick one up at a better price?
Let's hope someone with determination and passion for British aviation can buy this and return it to the air. When would have the last Tempest flown? Late 50's, early 60's?
By: - 27th January 2009 at 09:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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Which Tempest is at Wickenby and how far away from flying is it? I have allways dreamed seeing a Typhoon or Tempest fly. Oh well, not the typhoon, but the Tempest is great.
Out of interest when did one last fly in this country?
By: - 27th January 2009 at 10:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The fundamental problem with the Tempest - either version is the engine.
As the other thread on Sabre survivors shows, there arent many, and very few that would be good enough to restore to flight status.
With the Centaurus, the Tempest uses a very early version of the engine, which again is a difficult problem to overcome. Not insurmountable - just expensive.
At the end of the day, the Fury/Sea Fury series represent a better and cheaper aeroplane, which I think is why these Tempest survivors have been sidelined.
I'd give it a home, but at what price?
Bruce
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By: Ant.H - 26th January 2009 at 15:00
This is the aircraft that was at one time under restoration to fly with Windmill Aviation at Spanhoe Lodge. Nice to see that it's surfaced again.
http://www.airborneattitude.com/projects.html
There's also an airworthy Lockheed 12 for sale on the same site.
http://www.airborneattitude.com/planes.html