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By: - 23rd November 2013 at 22:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
you beat me to it! ;)
More bad news for the "Dreamliner". Not the kind of dream(s) Boeing planned.
By: - 23rd November 2013 at 22:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
By the looks of it it's not an actual problem with the aircraft itself but the GE engines because it states that BA with Rolls Royce engines hasn't had any problems.
Seems like the press want associate any issue with the aircraft itself rather than something that is, in some ways, outside Boeing's control
By: - 24th November 2013 at 21:55 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
nick40moose is right...it's not Boeing's fault or problem to solve, it would come down to engine manufacturer, in this case GE.
Of course due to amount of bad press that the aircraft in general has had since it launched, the media will pretty much do anything to link two stories that are about the same subject, in this case the Dreamliner, and try to make out that situation is a lot worse than it actually is.
By: - 24th November 2013 at 22:51 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes, Lufthansa warned... not even a 787 operator. The Article calls it a 787 problem yet reports is as an engine issue which it clearly is...shocking reporting
By: - 24th November 2013 at 23:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes, Lufthansa warned... not even a 787 operator. The Article calls it a 787 problem yet reports is as an engine issue which it clearly is...shocking reporting
Lufthansa have 747-8's so are affected by the GENX engines fitted.
By: - 25th November 2013 at 10:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yup, this is a GENX issue. Something GE are working on.
Perhaps should have been spotting in ground and flight tests. But then, sometimes those tests don't always manage to replicate all the variables. And it could be a very specific set of conditions that have to be met for the icing issue to occur.
By: - 25th November 2013 at 12:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Aren't icing issues that put down a BA 777 at LHR a few year's back?
By: - 25th November 2013 at 13:09 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
We had a similar icing issue on a 4-engined British airliner a few years ago. It was the aircraft maunfacturer , in conjunction with the engine manufacturer, that had to fix it.
The engine is installed on a Boeing aircraft so Boeing will be responsible for getting the probelem fixed. Obviously GE will involved but it will be Boeing's problem.
By: - 26th November 2013 at 03:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
By the looks of it it's not an actual problem with the aircraft itself but the GE engines because it states that BA with Rolls Royce engines hasn't had any problems.Seems like the press want associate any issue with the aircraft itself rather than something that is, in some ways, outside Boeing's control
It is Boeing responsibility to assess any engines they supply with their aircraft, so it is as much (if not more) Boeings issue as it is GEs.
By: - 26th November 2013 at 06:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Didn't RR sort out the Trent 800 problem when one went bang on a Qantas A380?
I would have thought this issue would be for GE to sort out, but I'll concede that I'm not entirely sure.
By: - 28th November 2013 at 15:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
News Reporters being reporters or maybe they should be porters yet in fairness -
In the original article with which this thread was started by Amiga500
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25068222
"........He said GE and Boeing were hoping to eliminate the problem by modifying the engine control system software......."
Shared responsibility for resolving the issue but the "Badge" is carried for the entire aircraft by Boeing - who IMO are strong enough to "weather" this problem which will not be the last- but that will certainly not stop the 787 being a desirable aircraft for many years to come.
By: - 29th November 2013 at 11:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Rightly or wrongly, the world at large is going to see this as another "Dreamliner" problem, and to be fair the meeja are hardly likely to print stories about aero engine problems without mentioning the aircraft they power. To most people, the engines are just another part of the Boeing aircraft and they have no interest in who made them, any more than if it were (for example) an IFE issue; as such it is inevitably going to be seen as Boeing's problem. Not fair, but as others have said, the 787 is fundamentally a great aircraft, and will ride all this out.
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By: Amiga500 - 23rd November 2013 at 22:11
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25068222
Boeing just can't get a break at the minute.