By: charliehunt
- 11th April 2015 at 15:38Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks Paul - I am watching the developments more remotely than from my usual standpoint a few miles down the road. But quite what happens now is none too clear. Presumably the government does not have the power to force a local council to proceed with a CPO. Or does it?
By: paul1867
- 11th April 2015 at 16:28Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Charlie, At times it was a bit difficult to hear what was being said between the supporters and the Minister but the impression I got was that it was now up to TDC so still that hurdle to go and as you probably already know not all councillors are supportive even if they have said publicly they are!
On balance I think the election is going to help as it appears all candidates feel the need to support the CPO and hopefully the Labour candidate will put pressure on the councillors. Then again they could spin it out until after the election.
By: charliehunt
- 11th April 2015 at 17:14Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks Paul. I thought I read that the "owners" were deeply unhappy with the timing of events and were taking it up with the Electoral Commission. But we can only hope that pressures political and popular will win the day with TDC. The fat lady has been waiting a long time to sing her song, hasn't she?!
By: paul1867
- 11th April 2015 at 19:00Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes the Minister did answer that point and basically he was saying that this situation has been going on for some time long before any election date was announced as was the Select Committee and the PWC investigation. It is just a sequence of events.
Of course, the starting pistol was fired by Mrs Goag when she closed the airport early, she should have thought of the election then. Obviously she probably thought it would all be done and dusted quickly.
I had to stop and think which way the election would effect the case as there is no MP for the area at the moment who had been supportive so from there it could have gone either way. From what I could gather all prospective candidates have come on board, or at least jumped on the band wagon anyway, so it may be difficult for Labour if the Council do note vote for the CPO. I don't know when the next Council elections are but there was talk of supporters standing for election.
Although the TV crew was there, I do not know which company, I did not see any reporters or press photographers.
On a lighter note there was plenty of support from passing motorists tooting their horns, obviously every body was in a good mood with the news and having a laugh
By: TonyT
- 22nd April 2015 at 22:08Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There was One of the BBC news election jobbies on the news this morning and it was UKIPs turn, the person being questioned mentioned Boris's airport was dead and Manston should be used, stating its proximity to HS2 as making it ideal, it was a generic chat involving Gatwick and Heathrow, but they were planing Manston into the equation.
By: paul1867
- 13th May 2015 at 12:19Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks for posting Charlie. I find it odd, shall we say, that the constituents of Thanet have elected a UKIP council, are there problems there that are not immediately obvious to the outsider that would make UKIP a contender? Or is it "just" a vote over the airport?
By: charliehunt
- 13th May 2015 at 19:22Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I wouldn't know, Paul, but if the answer to your last question is "yes", then local feelings in support of the airport's future as an airport must be very strong. Although having said that I think the Conservatives in the old council were supportive too..
By: paul1867
- 10th July 2015 at 19:16Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I wondered how long it would take to do that. I wonder what agreement has been reached with the owners then and whether that is good or bad for Manston long term.
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By: charliehunt - 11th April 2015 at 15:38 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks Paul - I am watching the developments more remotely than from my usual standpoint a few miles down the road. But quite what happens now is none too clear. Presumably the government does not have the power to force a local council to proceed with a CPO. Or does it?
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By: paul1867 - 11th April 2015 at 16:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Charlie, At times it was a bit difficult to hear what was being said between the supporters and the Minister but the impression I got was that it was now up to TDC so still that hurdle to go and as you probably already know not all councillors are supportive even if they have said publicly they are!
On balance I think the election is going to help as it appears all candidates feel the need to support the CPO and hopefully the Labour candidate will put pressure on the councillors. Then again they could spin it out until after the election.
Paul
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By: charliehunt - 11th April 2015 at 17:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks Paul. I thought I read that the "owners" were deeply unhappy with the timing of events and were taking it up with the Electoral Commission. But we can only hope that pressures political and popular will win the day with TDC. The fat lady has been waiting a long time to sing her song, hasn't she?!
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By: paul1867 - 11th April 2015 at 19:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes the Minister did answer that point and basically he was saying that this situation has been going on for some time long before any election date was announced as was the Select Committee and the PWC investigation. It is just a sequence of events.
Of course, the starting pistol was fired by Mrs Goag when she closed the airport early, she should have thought of the election then. Obviously she probably thought it would all be done and dusted quickly.
I had to stop and think which way the election would effect the case as there is no MP for the area at the moment who had been supportive so from there it could have gone either way. From what I could gather all prospective candidates have come on board, or at least jumped on the band wagon anyway, so it may be difficult for Labour if the Council do note vote for the CPO. I don't know when the next Council elections are but there was talk of supporters standing for election.
Although the TV crew was there, I do not know which company, I did not see any reporters or press photographers.
On a lighter note there was plenty of support from passing motorists tooting their horns, obviously every body was in a good mood with the news and having a laugh
the Minister was relieved that there was a baby present as he has to kiss at least one on each day of the campaign
and many hands were pressed
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By: charliehunt - 12th April 2015 at 16:33 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Paul - thanks for keeping me up to speed!! I keenly await the next development!!:)
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By: TonyT - 22nd April 2015 at 22:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There was One of the BBC news election jobbies on the news this morning and it was UKIPs turn, the person being questioned mentioned Boris's airport was dead and Manston should be used, stating its proximity to HS2 as making it ideal, it was a generic chat involving Gatwick and Heathrow, but they were planing Manston into the equation.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/thanet/news/farage-claims-credit-for-airport-34934/
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By: Moggy C - 22nd April 2015 at 23:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Ummmm
Manston is nowhere near HS2.
It's pretty close to HS1 though. I suppose that's close enough for UKIP?
Moggy
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By: charliehunt - 23rd April 2015 at 08:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes, indeed - you do wonder sometimes:rolleyes:.....but H, S and either 1 or 2. So, what's in a number.....? Err, about £40 billion, I think....!!
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By: charliehunt - 12th May 2015 at 14:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The win by UKIP of Thanet Council looks like encouraging news for the airport's future.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/thanet/news/council-will-try-to-buy-36686/
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By: paul1867 - 13th May 2015 at 12:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks for posting Charlie. I find it odd, shall we say, that the constituents of Thanet have elected a UKIP council, are there problems there that are not immediately obvious to the outsider that would make UKIP a contender? Or is it "just" a vote over the airport?
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By: charliehunt - 13th May 2015 at 19:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I wouldn't know, Paul, but if the answer to your last question is "yes", then local feelings in support of the airport's future as an airport must be very strong. Although having said that I think the Conservatives in the old council were supportive too..
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By: AlanR - 22nd May 2015 at 07:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Did the earth move for you last night Charlie ? :)
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By: paul1867 - 22nd May 2015 at 12:01 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Trust me to be up North and miss it.:D
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By: charliehunt - 22nd May 2015 at 19:46 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Alan - surprisingly not but it did for my son who lives a couple of miles nearer the epicentre!! :)
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By: paul1867 - 26th May 2015 at 16:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Is continental drift OK then? :D
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By: paul1867 - 10th July 2015 at 09:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Spotted this in Historic thread
Osborne seeks planning changes to boost house-building - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33472405
Bet Mrs Goag wishes she had kept Manston open the period she said she would. If this does come in it would have been much easier for her.
Hopefully the CPO is proceeding although it does seem to have gone quiet.
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By: Moggy C - 10th July 2015 at 18:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Apparently to be used for Operation Stack to free up the M20 in the current problems.
Moggy
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By: paul1867 - 10th July 2015 at 19:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I wondered how long it would take to do that. I wonder what agreement has been reached with the owners then and whether that is good or bad for Manston long term.
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By: charliehunt - 11th July 2015 at 05:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
But has it been confirmed? I thought it was just one on a list of alternatives, official and unofficial, with no decision yet made.
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By: Moggy C - 11th July 2015 at 10:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Doesn't seem so.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/thanet/news/manson-owners-say-use-former-39922/
Moggy