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GLA - Newark - 13,175 pax, 90% Load Factor, averaging 192 pax per flight.

GLA - Chicago-O'Hare - 11,935 pax, 91% Load Factor, averaging 192 pax per
flight.

GLA - Philadelphia -10,750 pax, 87% Load Factor, averaging 173 pax per
flight.

GLA- Dubai - 14,168 pax, 82% Load Factor, averaginf 228 pax per flight.

GLA - Toronto - 27,884 pax, 900 pax per day passing through Glasgow
International to/from Toronto.

GLA-SFB JULY 2004 JULY 2003 %Change

26527 12860 106

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Good figures .....

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Interesting to see that the EDI-EWR service has a larger percentage.

But then, the pax number will be about the same, due to capacity obviously

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Interesting to see that the EDI-EWR service has a larger percentage.

But then, the pax number will be about the same, due to capacity obviously

The figures quoted by GLAsgow are wrong...

Based on 764 x 285 seats, the July total passenger count at GLA resolved to an average load factor of 74.56%

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The figures quoted by GLAsgow are wrong...

Based on 764 x 285 seats, the July total passenger count at GLA resolved to an average load factor of 74.56%


I wonder if the other figures are correct then?

Care to show us tour source GLAsgow?

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The figures quoted by GLAsgow are wrong...

Based on 764 x 285 seats, the July total passenger count at GLA resolved to an average load factor of 74.56%


Continental say their 767-400s have 235 seats (35 in First and 200 in Economy) and not 285.

Since it's their own aircraft that they're talking about I'm quite happy to take their word for it - but perhaps some of you feel you know better? :rolleyes:

The 777s have 283 seats (48 in First and 235 in Economy) so maybe Silver Snapper is thinking of them?

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CAA website, look for yourself they are ALL correctJust a predictable responce from Silver Snapper

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I think that the seating diagrams that Matthew has posted refer to specific configurations for aircraft assigned long-term to the Micronesia services.

Continental used to do a similar thing with their DC10s.

As you can see, Continental's "mainline" B767-400s have 235 seats.

http://www.continental.com/img/aircraft/767-400_seatmap.gif

35 First + 200 Economy = 235 seats

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[QUOTE=Grey Area]Continental say their 767-400s have 235 seats (35 in First and 200 in Economy) and not 285.

Here's my source

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Can those be right. There are a lot of losses on a lot of european destinations from GLA.

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Going by those stats

Growth percentages:

Traffic Movements for GLA Up 2%
Traffic Movement for EDI Up 5%

Passenger movements for GLA Up 3.5%
Passenger movements for EDI Up 7%...

Edi is expanding double the rate! :eek:

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Can those be right. There are a lot of losses on a lot of european destinations from GLA.

July isn't a good month to judge any GLA services.

It's ultra-peak, the traditional holiday season, we will have a better idea how all Scottish services are performing come
off-holiday peaks..

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Why do all EDI spotter they to turn EVERYTHING into a GLA Vs EDI match? Its just pathetic realy.

For GLA
Passengers (ooo's) 1007.4 Change on July '03 +9.9%
Air Transport Movements 9083 Change on July '03b +4.5%

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Why do all EDI spotter they to turn EVERYTHING into a GLA Vs EDI match? Its just pathetic realy.

For GLA
Passengers (ooo's) 1007.4 Change on July '03 +9.9%
Air Transport Movements 9083 Change on July '03b +4.5%


Now now, no one is turning this into anything.

Pax movement change from July last year for EDI is 10.2%
Movement is up by 7.8%

not bad for a "unappealing" airport as BAA are so eager to put it.
Its good to see all airports doing well, especially after 9/11.

Dundee unfortunately is at -18.4% for traffic but up 5.6% for pax.
Aberdeen has a traffic growth of 0.4% and pax of 0.9%. Not so good.

But romping it in first place

Prestwick! Traffic up 18.2% and Pax a staggering 33.5%

That makes the Growth league table

Prestwick
EDI
GLA
Dundee
Aberdeen

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July isn't a good month to judge any GLA services.

It's ultra-peak, the traditional holiday season, we will have a better idea how all Scottish services are performing come
off-holiday peaks..


true, true.

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I think we should wait for the year total figures.

I have a sneaky feeling Prestwick might put all the airports to shame.

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Percentages are always misleading when it comes to passenger growth.

For example:

Blagways flew 100 passengers from Here to There last June, and flew 200 this June, they can rightly claim to have experienced 100% growth.

However, Grot Airways flew 1000 passenger from Here to There last June and 1400 this June but can only claim 40% growth over the same period.

Even though Grot Airways' growth alone was twice Blagways' total loading over the same period, in sheer percentage terms Blagways appears to be the far more successful of the two.

Just goes to show what they say about lies, damned lies and statistics. :D

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Percentages are always misleading when it comes to passenger growth.

For example:

Blagways flew 100 passengers from Here to There last June, and flew 200 this June, they can rightly claim to have experienced 100% growth.

However, Grot Airways flew 1000 passenger from Here to There last June and 1400 this June but can only claim 40% growth over the same period.

Even though Grot Airways' growth alone was twice Blagways' total loading over the same period, in sheer percentage terms Blagways appears to be the far more successful of the two.

Just goes to show what they say about lies, damned lies and statistics. :D


Percentages also have their uses. These stats are created on averages afaik.

For general info like this thread... they'll suffice.

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The seatguru map referred to the "Hawaii" configuration.

Airlines sometimes configure the same type of aircraft with different seats, depending on the destination. BA for instance, always used to have more seats in their "Miami" 744's than the rest of the fleet.

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The seatguru map referred to the "Hawaii" configuration.

Airlines sometimes configure the same type of aircraft with different seats, depending on the destination. BA for instance, always used to have more seats in their "Miami" 744's than the rest of the fleet.


Very true.

Another example: COA's International 757s have less seating than their Domestics. The reason being obvious