Cabin Crew would not let me take photos during take off !

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On my recent trip Liverpool-London City-Liverpool, I was all ready to get some great shots.....until the rather rude female cabin crew on the LIVERPOOL-LONDON leg said i was not to take photo's during take off as it's a health and saftey matter and my attention should be on the plane during takeoff !, What about the 4 business guys laughiung at a newspaper report a few rows ahead, thats just as bad I said, but she wouldn't have it :mad:

I couldn't even get away with it as I was in seat 13D (the very rear row, right next to their seats!!!)

Anyway on the return I managed to snap a few....does anybody know what the rainbow effect is on the third image?

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Suppose if anything happened such as a crash or heavy turbulence your camera could fly out your hands and hit a small child or something, so it's safety really.

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I like them :D nice

I must say I've never heard of that before, never happend to me anyway......

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I cant say I've heard of it in a health and safety sense, although you are always told "no portable electronic items are to be used during takeoff and landing" although any safety risk from using them was disproved years ago.

I know wannabe pilot and myself always have to conceal our cameras when we fly to avoid the crew getting irritated, and that also means ensuring we get seats some distance from where they are sitting!

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No i've never heard of that one ? Think its a bit of a jobsworth going to extremes.

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It is the same reason why the luggage and tray tables are stowed during take off and landing. Anything that can get thrown because of a sudden movement shoule be stowed. What would happen if the takeoff had to be aborted, and emergency brakes applied?

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The aeroplane would come to a halt, I would imagine.......... :D

We do see quite a lot of pictures taken from airliners during take off, so this can't be a universal practice.

Can any of you "pros" out there throw some light on this?

Tony - I believe that the halo effect is called a "glory".

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It's purely safety reasons, all loose articles must be stowed in the overhead lockers during take off and landing

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Dont think thats the reason but i can see your point. If that was a reason it would be mentioned in the safety breif. In 11 years of flying i've never heard of this and if you said to passengers not to have anything in their hands during take off and landing it would be impossible to police.

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That doesn't sound like typical VLM crews to me (I assume you were on VLM!) I've had several flights with them and not one problem about using a camera or video camera. The VLM crews are usually spot on with manners.

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The aeroplane would come to a halt, I would imagine.......... :D

We do see quite a lot of pictures taken from airliners during take off, so this can't be a universal practice.

Can any of you "pros" out there throw some light on this?

Tony - I believe that the halo effect is called a "glory".

I'll check at work on Monday, but suspect a camera could be deemed an 'electronic' device, especially digital ones, hence should not be used when the seatbelt sign is switched on. Must admit never heard of 'Health and Safety' as a reason though.

Mark L - It has never been entirely disproved that electronic items do not affect aircraft systems. Further info in AIC Pink 24 1/2004, Use of Portable Electronic Devices in Aircraft.

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I guess strictly speaking there are 2 points, both of which have been covered.

1. Loose items.
2. Electronic items (if the camera is digital)

With all safety related matters airlines have their own policies based around the guidelines and rules of the governing body in their country. None of the airlines I have worked for have ever said that cameras can't be used, so it can't be laid down by the CAA, but I can't comment on VLM or the Belgian authorities.

I agree with Softlad though that the use (or not) of cameras on take off would be impossible to monitor.

Not sure about Marks comment that interference from electronic items was disproved. My understanding is that the CAA have never established definitive facts either way and therefore err on the side of caution by not allowing their use.

As for VLM crew, I will be flying with them soon so will see what they are like for myself. If the crewmember wasn't British, is it possible that something about her manner was lost in translation? Also I am bound to say that these days passengers invariably think you are being unreasonable if you stop them doing what they want to do!

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On a Thomson flight a man was asked to put his camera away during take off and landing. This was a big DSLR with a pretty big lens on it. When he asked why, the cabin crew told him the last thing he should be holding is that "****** great thing" should they be required to evacuate in an emergency.

Having said that, I've never been stopped using my small digital during take off or landing. It just happened that on the Thomson flight I'd left my camera in my bag because I was too tired to bother.

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Maybe disproved was not quite the correct word but from what I understand from recent Eurocontrol investigations is that there is no real evidence that electronic equipment or mobile phones have any effect on aircraft systems.

I don't think either has been disproved entirely which is why airlines and aviaiton authorities are still cautionary in their approach but with all recent inquries and investigations basically saying the evidence is negligable I cant see this policy continuing much longer unless the items would impede an exit in an emergency.

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I didn't have any problem when i went with RYR to Dublin. Allthough, i did kind of hide it if they were passing :D

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Interesting, very different from what I gather Eurocontrol have found, particularly with regard to mobiles.

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Interesting, very different from what I gather Eurocontrol have found, particularly with regard to mobiles.

Im lead to believe that Airbus issued a notice to BA engineering about 2 years ago about the use of mobile phones,and that under no cirumstance should they be used on board at anytime,
This issue came about whilst sitting at LHR on board a BA 319,a complaint was made about a passneger continually using his phone whillst we taxied out, The Pilot annouced that it was ok to use them ,but a retuning long haul crew were gobsmack by his annoucment,I latter heard a complaint was also raised about the captains actions as this was contradicting Airbus and BA,s own rules
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Lufthansa are letting mobiles be used arnt they as it connects to their network which charges premium rates?

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Correct, I'm sure I read somewhere bmi were looking at doing the same?

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That doesn't sound like typical VLM crews to me (I assume you were on VLM!) I've had several flights with them and not one problem about using a camera or video camera. The VLM crews are usually spot on with manners.

Yes, I've found this before, I think I just caught her on a bad day!, it was a full plane and we where already 10 minutes late, so I'll let her off for her tone of voice (can't be too hard on her as she was a Liverpudlian like me). My camera was in it's smallest form (not much bigger than a Proshot 1 or a Minolta)

I think it was somthing to do, as people have mentioned , about the possibility of a DSLR travelling through the air at 100 mph should the pilot abort take off and I lose my grip on the camera!
I would not like to be responsible for injuring somebody on a flight :confused:

It's strange that on the way back (with only 15 passengers) they didn't blink an eye lid - maybe she had worked at a previous airline and it was their rules?