B767/A330 and charter airlines

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hi all,

Ive got a bit of coursework in which i need to examine certification requirements (the certification that allows the airline to fly certain routes) and maintenance principals of two aircraft types, based around a charter airline.

The Boeing 767 and A330 tend to be fairly popular with charter airlines. Put simply, why?

any help would be great!

thanks

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well according to my research for collage the charter airlines use em because they offer good range, high seating capacity when they are in there largest configuration and they offer low running costs what course u doing

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thanks for the info. i'm doing Air Transport Management at Loughborough University.

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no problem mate im doing airline and airport ops at newcastle collage

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no problem mate im doing airline and airport ops at newcastle collage

Is it BTEC National? That's what I'm doing as well.
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Is it BTEC National? That's what I'm doing as well.

yeah it is mate where u studying at

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I'm at a college based at LBA.

cool we were supposed to going to LBA last year to see the airport but the day before we went LBA phoned up to say that due to securtiy issues they couldn't accept us!! so we went to castleford and got drunk hehe been to MAN this year which year u in

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First year.

We haven't been on ANY trips, even though we were told we would! Travesty...

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First year.

We haven't been on ANY trips, even though we were told we would! Travesty...

hehe i know mate were off to dublin later this year just trying to aviod ryanair at all costs

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The only places we've been to is a team building event. Other than that, nothing unless you count the various trips around LBA which is nothing interesting.

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true mate weve been to ncl loads of times even though its my local u get board of it MAN was something else though huge airport saw my first 747 was well chuffed

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Ahem...... is this a private conversation, or can anyone join in?

Drifting off-topic a bit, chaps.

GA

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true mate weve been to ncl loads of times even though its my local u get board of it MAN was something else though huge airport saw my first 747 was well chuffed

Luke, can't you post with less slang and more punctuation please? I'm sick of reading messages like this, it's okay for MSN and all the other chat programs, but not for an aviation forum. :)

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i know that the two types require (and have) ETOPS-180 certification to allow them to do transatlantic flights (and that a specific operator needs to gain ETOPS certification), but what other certification would be required by an airline to operate long range flights from Europe to the US for example?

thanks

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i know that the two types require (and have) ETOPS-180 certification to allow them to do transatlantic flights (and that a specific operator needs to gain ETOPS certification), but what other certification would be required by an airline to operate long range flights from Europe to the US for example?

thanks

thats beyond me there mate

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The 767 is particularly popular due to it having cross qualification with the 757 meaning that with one set of crews the airline can crew both long and short haul flights. A lot more efficient than employing crew qualified solely for the one type and adds flexibility too.

Initial certification is done when an operator decides they want to operate the aircraft. For a long time the NZCAA didn't recognise the 757. Particular configurations may not be certified with the general type for example a 767 with only a speed tape and standby ASI (no conventional ASI) is not automatically certified by the CAA until flight crew training requirements are shown to prove the crews are trained to cope with the difference.

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thanks for the info Hugh! :)

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The 767 is particularly popular due to it having cross qualification with the 757 meaning that with one set of crews the airline can crew both long and short haul flights. A lot more efficient than employing crew qualified solely for the one type and adds flexibility too...

Very true but the same can be said for the A330 with the A320 family as used by several UK charter carriers.

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I didn't think they had cross crew qualification. I understood the CAA stopped it as the aircraft were too different in handling and size.