By: Cking
- 28th December 2008 at 23:48Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hear we go again. The Boeing Vs Airbus row.
Both are fine aircraft.
Both types have crashed.
Both have to pass the same vigorous regulatory standards as each other
Both manufacturers go to extraordinary lengths to keep people safe,
Both have had accidents were the CVR and the FDR were not working (Silkair was a 737)
The A320 family is not to blame hear. It was either a problem with the individual aircraft or the individual flight.
By: Vicbitter
- 29th December 2008 at 14:10Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
What was the cause of the infamous Air France A320 crash, captured on video ploughing into the forest ? Not quite a defective computer, but one that decided it was in charge of the plane...
No computer decided to fly an airliner full of people at 30 feet over an airfield neither pilot had ever visited before, and to do so at a high angle of attack and low speed, when the captain eventually decided it might be an idea to apply some power the engines responded as they should have done and in fact the engine speed was 83% N1 when the aircraft hit the trees, the Airbus flight control system is good, but it won't stop you flying the aircraft into the ground.
By: steve rowell
- 19th January 2009 at 09:25Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The German pilots of an Air New Zealand Airbus A320 screamed in terror as they struggled to cope with a sudden surge in power, moments before their test flight off the French coast ended in tragedy last November, New Zealand media said on Monday.
The cause of the crash on November 28, which killed five New Zealanders and two Germans, is still not officially known as data from the plane's flight and voice recorders is still being analysed, broadcaster TV3 said in a report.
But the data shows the plane experienced a surge in power as it was about to land at Perpignan in southern France, causing it to climb steeply before plunging into the Mediterranean Sea, TV3 quoted chief investigator Jean-Pierre Dreno as saying.
"First it goes up, and then it falls on its side before entering the sea," Dreno said, adding the cockpit voice recorder captured the pilots' screams as they struggled to regain control.
The plane had been leased by national carrier Air New Zealand to German carrier XL Airways for the previous two years. It was being flown by two XL pilots on a test-flight prior to being returned to Air New Zealand.
Also on board were four Air New Zealand staff and an inspector from New Zealand's Civil Aviation Authority.
In a statement released on Monday, Air New Zealand said it was still not aware of the cause of the crash, and it had been informed that analysis of the flight data would not be complete for a number of weeks.
The A320 is a twin-engine, single-aisle airliner made by Airbus that normally seats around 150 passengers. About 1,960 A320 aircraft are in service with airlines around the world.
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By: Cking - 28th December 2008 at 23:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hear we go again. The Boeing Vs Airbus row.
Both are fine aircraft.
Both types have crashed.
Both have to pass the same vigorous regulatory standards as each other
Both manufacturers go to extraordinary lengths to keep people safe,
Both have had accidents were the CVR and the FDR were not working (Silkair was a 737)
The A320 family is not to blame hear. It was either a problem with the individual aircraft or the individual flight.
Rgds Cking
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By: steve rowell - 28th December 2008 at 23:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I've flown on both types many a time ..but flying on an A320 at the moment ..the cause of the accident would always be in the back of your mind
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By: Vicbitter - 29th December 2008 at 14:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
No computer decided to fly an airliner full of people at 30 feet over an airfield neither pilot had ever visited before, and to do so at a high angle of attack and low speed, when the captain eventually decided it might be an idea to apply some power the engines responded as they should have done and in fact the engine speed was 83% N1 when the aircraft hit the trees, the Airbus flight control system is good, but it won't stop you flying the aircraft into the ground.
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By: steve rowell - 19th January 2009 at 09:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The German pilots of an Air New Zealand Airbus A320 screamed in terror as they struggled to cope with a sudden surge in power, moments before their test flight off the French coast ended in tragedy last November, New Zealand media said on Monday.
The cause of the crash on November 28, which killed five New Zealanders and two Germans, is still not officially known as data from the plane's flight and voice recorders is still being analysed, broadcaster TV3 said in a report.
But the data shows the plane experienced a surge in power as it was about to land at Perpignan in southern France, causing it to climb steeply before plunging into the Mediterranean Sea, TV3 quoted chief investigator Jean-Pierre Dreno as saying.
"First it goes up, and then it falls on its side before entering the sea," Dreno said, adding the cockpit voice recorder captured the pilots' screams as they struggled to regain control.
The plane had been leased by national carrier Air New Zealand to German carrier XL Airways for the previous two years. It was being flown by two XL pilots on a test-flight prior to being returned to Air New Zealand.
Also on board were four Air New Zealand staff and an inspector from New Zealand's Civil Aviation Authority.
In a statement released on Monday, Air New Zealand said it was still not aware of the cause of the crash, and it had been informed that analysis of the flight data would not be complete for a number of weeks.
The A320 is a twin-engine, single-aisle airliner made by Airbus that normally seats around 150 passengers. About 1,960 A320 aircraft are in service with airlines around the world.
(Reuters)
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By: Newforest - 6th April 2011 at 16:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
New Zealand accepts French report blaming pilots and maintenance.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iCmHJM_Dj455mnfxy9Gjx8vBytyQ?docId=CNG.257bcef9eef716bd0729156f4bceb718.511