By: Anecdotage
- 26th June 2014 at 18:47Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Better late than never; I've just stumbled upon this forum... G-STAN was one of two F27-100 aircraft in our fleet, but they were not identical. G-STAN (c/n 10131) was registered to us on the 30th of April 1979 and, previously, was VH-CAV with the Australian Department of Civil Aviation. The out-of-sequence British registration honoured Air Anglia's Engineering Manager, whose surname I now forget. The aircraft had Dart 528-7E engines but, if my memory serves me correctly, it was re-engined with Dart 532-7Rs as with the F27-200s in the fleet. The other -100 was G-SPUD (c/n 10120), named after Philip 'Spud' Murphy, our Operations Manager and Chief Pilot. Sourced also from Australia (as VH-TFE), this aircraft was registered to us on the 31st of January 1979. I can certainly vouch for the care needed with loadsheets for these aircraft and remember an occasion when, while loading pax at ABZ for a mid-day schedule (AQ205, I think, ABZ-MME-HUY-NWI-LHR), the engineers saw daylight under the nosewheel, which caused some alarm and the permanent institution thereafter of trickle-boarding to fill the forward seating first. Performance was good and, on a hot day, the addition of five gallons of Water/Methanol to the fuel during take-off would lift a full G-SPUD into the air with alacrity.
If memory serves, that Air UK F27 G-STAN was the only -100 in the fleet. This meant taking care with the loadsheets for it, as the standard weights were unique. The other F27s were -200s, although I think that there was a -500 or -600 also. I can also remember 'ramping' an Air UK F28, PH-MOL in a predominantly white Air UK scheme.
By: mike currill
- 23rd July 2014 at 12:32Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
OK JB, glad that is sorted. Most magazines are nice enough to ask before they use a picture, and I could't remember this one. When you mentioned Newcastle
I was even more surprised since with the KLM DC8 and DC9 in the background this is an Amsterdam picture.
The Interflug IL62 is also at my homeport Schiphol were they were sometimes seen.
Nice picture HP, I can see the guy under tail is working to influence the horizon.
The following pictures were taken at Rotterdam, scanned and processed some time ago with some heavyhanded noise reduction.
rgds
EC
Britannia Airways 737s, I flew enough miles in those flying to and from Germany. Flying between Gutersloh and Gatwick.
By: garryrussell
- 10th February 2015 at 19:25Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Air UK F.27-100
Air Anglia were building the fleet at a time when the type was at it's most popular and -200 were hard to get. So they bought two -100 to convert to -200
G-STAN was done but G-SPUD was found to be unsuitable and not done. It spent the remainder of it's life as the owners sole -100
When Manx Airlines was formed by Air UK (as AA and BIA had become), and BMA, G-SPUD was sent as a part of the initial fleet becoming G-OMAN. Later, it re-joined the main Air UK fleet as G-BLFJ. Affectionately known as 'Fruit Juice' it was very popular with cabin crew as the lower powered Darts were quieter than the rest of the fleet.
It was cancelled withdrawn from use 6th January 1997
By: HP81
- 11th February 2015 at 09:27Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I remember G-BLFJ operating out of Stansted, it wasn't quite as easy to maintain as the -200's, due to some of the nacelle panels being screwed on rather than quick release. An Air UK rep told me that they kept it in the fleet because their engineers had rescued it from the jungle, after being told, when they were collecting some other F27's, that if they recovered this aircraft they could have it for nothing. I am not sure how true this is but it's a good story.
Sorry about the van in this picture, it was taken to put on the wall in the Qualitair line office.
By: HP81
- 11th February 2015 at 09:31Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
On the same negative strip as the F27 there is this rather back lit shot of a Viscount and a BIA 1'11, known by us as "loose nuts". It was not a term of endearment!
By: mike currill
- 11th February 2015 at 13:47Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I've just noticed that there is a British Eagle 1-11 among the earlier pics. I remember them doing the UK-BAOR air trooping in the mid 60's before Brittania took over. I flew on a few of those.
Nice to see a pic of the world's first turboprop airliner type in the colours of a modern airline.
By: Argonaut
- 11th February 2015 at 20:01Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
[ATTACH=CONFIG]235269[/ATTACH] Good to see this thread back up and running, there are so many great images in it. My contribution this evening is an Aer Lingus Viscount at Dublin, with some "interesting" background.
By: Argonaut
- 12th February 2015 at 11:09Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
When was that?...the 1961 Berlin Wall crisis? great photo!
No it was 1963 during a visit by JFK, one of the C97s was called "Talking bird" and provided comms for the visit and the second was a support a/c. A huge amount of USAF aircraft visited during this period.
By: Argonaut
- 12th February 2015 at 18:35Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
[ATTACH=CONFIG]235291[/ATTACH] What a shame that no airliners are built in the UK today ( apart from pieces ) 3 great British airliners on the ramp in Dublin in the 1960s. A great pity that there is not a single Viscount flying today.
By: Argonaut
- 16th February 2015 at 20:23Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Point taken regarding the Islander, not really what I had in mind, more like this photo with nothing but British built airliners Viscounts, Vanguards, Britannia, Comet and Trident.[ATTACH=CONFIG]235372[/ATTACH]
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By: groundhugger - 13th September 2013 at 19:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Some more old un's from the Shoebox
Hope you enjoy them :)
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By: Culpano - 14th September 2013 at 00:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Great stuff groundhugger. Love these old shots. Way before my time.
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By: Anecdotage - 26th June 2014 at 18:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Better late than never; I've just stumbled upon this forum... G-STAN was one of two F27-100 aircraft in our fleet, but they were not identical. G-STAN (c/n 10131) was registered to us on the 30th of April 1979 and, previously, was VH-CAV with the Australian Department of Civil Aviation. The out-of-sequence British registration honoured Air Anglia's Engineering Manager, whose surname I now forget. The aircraft had Dart 528-7E engines but, if my memory serves me correctly, it was re-engined with Dart 532-7Rs as with the F27-200s in the fleet. The other -100 was G-SPUD (c/n 10120), named after Philip 'Spud' Murphy, our Operations Manager and Chief Pilot. Sourced also from Australia (as VH-TFE), this aircraft was registered to us on the 31st of January 1979. I can certainly vouch for the care needed with loadsheets for these aircraft and remember an occasion when, while loading pax at ABZ for a mid-day schedule (AQ205, I think, ABZ-MME-HUY-NWI-LHR), the engineers saw daylight under the nosewheel, which caused some alarm and the permanent institution thereafter of trickle-boarding to fill the forward seating first. Performance was good and, on a hot day, the addition of five gallons of Water/Methanol to the fuel during take-off would lift a full G-SPUD into the air with alacrity.
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By: mike currill - 23rd July 2014 at 12:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Britannia Airways 737s, I flew enough miles in those flying to and from Germany. Flying between Gutersloh and Gatwick.Posts: 299
By: Argonaut - 30th August 2014 at 22:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
[ATTACH=CONFIG]231376[/ATTACH] Southend 1969
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By: mike currill - 30th August 2014 at 23:46 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I bet the backdrop has changed considerably since that was taken.
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By: garryrussell - 10th February 2015 at 19:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Air UK F.27-100
Air Anglia were building the fleet at a time when the type was at it's most popular and -200 were hard to get. So they bought two -100 to convert to -200
G-STAN was done but G-SPUD was found to be unsuitable and not done. It spent the remainder of it's life as the owners sole -100
When Manx Airlines was formed by Air UK (as AA and BIA had become), and BMA, G-SPUD was sent as a part of the initial fleet becoming G-OMAN. Later, it re-joined the main Air UK fleet as G-BLFJ. Affectionately known as 'Fruit Juice' it was very popular with cabin crew as the lower powered Darts were quieter than the rest of the fleet.
It was cancelled withdrawn from use 6th January 1997
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By: HP81 - 11th February 2015 at 09:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I remember G-BLFJ operating out of Stansted, it wasn't quite as easy to maintain as the -200's, due to some of the nacelle panels being screwed on rather than quick release. An Air UK rep told me that they kept it in the fleet because their engineers had rescued it from the jungle, after being told, when they were collecting some other F27's, that if they recovered this aircraft they could have it for nothing. I am not sure how true this is but it's a good story.
Sorry about the van in this picture, it was taken to put on the wall in the Qualitair line office.
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By: HP81 - 11th February 2015 at 09:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
On the same negative strip as the F27 there is this rather back lit shot of a Viscount and a BIA 1'11, known by us as "loose nuts". It was not a term of endearment!
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By: mike currill - 11th February 2015 at 13:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I've just noticed that there is a British Eagle 1-11 among the earlier pics. I remember them doing the UK-BAOR air trooping in the mid 60's before Brittania took over. I flew on a few of those.
Nice to see a pic of the world's first turboprop airliner type in the colours of a modern airline.
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By: Argonaut - 11th February 2015 at 20:01 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
[ATTACH=CONFIG]235269[/ATTACH] Good to see this thread back up and running, there are so many great images in it. My contribution this evening is an Aer Lingus Viscount at Dublin, with some "interesting" background.
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By: longshot - 12th February 2015 at 01:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
When was that?...the 1961 Berlin Wall crisis? great photo!
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By: Argonaut - 12th February 2015 at 11:09 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
No it was 1963 during a visit by JFK, one of the C97s was called "Talking bird" and provided comms for the visit and the second was a support a/c. A huge amount of USAF aircraft visited during this period.Posts: 299
By: Argonaut - 12th February 2015 at 18:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
[ATTACH=CONFIG]235291[/ATTACH] What a shame that no airliners are built in the UK today ( apart from pieces ) 3 great British airliners on the ramp in Dublin in the 1960s. A great pity that there is not a single Viscount flying today.
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By: garryrussell - 13th February 2015 at 15:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The Islander is an airliner sometimes
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By: Argonaut - 16th February 2015 at 20:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Point taken regarding the Islander, not really what I had in mind, more like this photo with nothing but British built airliners Viscounts, Vanguards, Britannia, Comet and Trident.[ATTACH=CONFIG]235372[/ATTACH]