By: kev35
- 8th May 2010 at 19:28Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Malcom.
I haven't speculated on anything whatsoever. I merely tried to find some evidence that the activity of banner towing is regulated. I wouldn't presume to speculate on a cause.
By: malcom
- 8th May 2010 at 21:05Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Kev35, please re-read my post.
You found your evidence of regulation (albeit from Trinidad & Tobago) - the gist of this thread.
Its the drawing of attention to a specific point within those regulations that I comment on.
By: Consul
- 8th May 2010 at 23:15Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thats handy, I see the comment that I referred to has disappeared from the board in the last hour.:confused:
Malcolm
I deleted my earlier post because of your astute observation that the regulation flagged up by Kev35 was from T&T and not UK CAA which I had failed to notice.
By: Gary Spender
- 9th May 2010 at 09:45Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
GrahamF
At this very moment some idiot is flying around London in a helicopter towing a flag about the size of a football pitch. Has this flag been calibrated and checked out by the CAA and is acceptable for this design of aircraft?
What makes the pilot an idiot ?
On what basis do you assume the CAA do not find this acceptable ?
Is it not a tad harsh to criticise without citing any evidence other than what appears to be an opinion ?
What type of aircraft was it ? And what exactly makes it (to use your terms) uncalibrated or unchecked out ?
By: WJ244
- 10th May 2010 at 17:52Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
My understanding has always been that banner towing requires a skilled pilot and that the main problem is likely to be drag caused by the banner rather than any problem in lifting the weight of the banner but I am not a pilot so maybe I have misunderstood.
It is good to see that the two occupants of the Wilga escaped even though they were injured but the section below taken from the CAA regulations does make me wonder what the leader of the UKIP was doing aboard the aircraft unless he is a qualified pilot with the appropriate experience to assist in the banner towing operation.
(6) No person other than crew members directly involved in conducting banner tow operations shall be carried on board the aircraft involved in towing a banner
No doubt all will be revealed after the CAA investigation.
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By: kev35 - 8th May 2010 at 19:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Malcom.
I haven't speculated on anything whatsoever. I merely tried to find some evidence that the activity of banner towing is regulated. I wouldn't presume to speculate on a cause.
Regards,
kev35
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By: malcom - 8th May 2010 at 21:05 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Kev35, please re-read my post.
You found your evidence of regulation (albeit from Trinidad & Tobago) - the gist of this thread.
Its the drawing of attention to a specific point within those regulations that I comment on.
Regards
Malcom
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By: zoot horn rollo - 8th May 2010 at 21:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1995/Uksi_19952943_en_1.htm
here's the UK statute that allows banner towing
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By: malcom - 8th May 2010 at 22:11 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thats handy, I see the comment that I referred to has disappeared from the board in the last hour.:confused:
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By: Consul - 8th May 2010 at 23:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Malcolm
I deleted my earlier post because of your astute observation that the regulation flagged up by Kev35 was from T&T and not UK CAA which I had failed to notice.
Tim
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By: kev35 - 9th May 2010 at 01:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Ah well, I tried.
Regards,
kev35
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By: Gary Spender - 9th May 2010 at 09:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
GrahamF
What makes the pilot an idiot ?
On what basis do you assume the CAA do not find this acceptable ?
Is it not a tad harsh to criticise without citing any evidence other than what appears to be an opinion ?
What type of aircraft was it ? And what exactly makes it (to use your terms) uncalibrated or unchecked out ?
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By: The Blue Max - 9th May 2010 at 18:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Is it really, what happened to the one at Sywell that i flew last week then????:rolleyes:
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By: WJ244 - 10th May 2010 at 17:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
My understanding has always been that banner towing requires a skilled pilot and that the main problem is likely to be drag caused by the banner rather than any problem in lifting the weight of the banner but I am not a pilot so maybe I have misunderstood.
It is good to see that the two occupants of the Wilga escaped even though they were injured but the section below taken from the CAA regulations does make me wonder what the leader of the UKIP was doing aboard the aircraft unless he is a qualified pilot with the appropriate experience to assist in the banner towing operation.
(6) No person other than crew members directly involved in conducting banner tow operations shall be carried on board the aircraft involved in towing a banner
No doubt all will be revealed after the CAA investigation.
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By: Planemike - 10th May 2010 at 21:11 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
G-INFO shows four Wilgas on the register (apart from the a/c involved in the accident), can't vouch for them all being airworthy.
Planemike
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By: scotavia - 10th May 2010 at 22:49 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
PLeased to read that other Wilgas fly in the uk.