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By: - 29th April 2010 at 04:05 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I'm not sure if the governments get it.
I don't smoke, never have...filthy habit.
But from what I see at store, a lot of cheap brands are already in plain packages.
BTW: the state has just raised the tax another $1 a pack so a pack of name brand killers is about $8.00
Still people are addicted...I don't think they're going to stop over a plain wrapper or higher cost.
By: - 29th April 2010 at 15:04 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I just think this is the most absurd thing I have read today. I don't smoke, have never and will never smoke as I don't particularly want to die young. I am totally for a ban on smoking in public places as not only does it stop passive smoking (to an extent) but also helps to further stigmatise those that do and hopefully that will help them to quit. I am also in favour of the latest proposals to have cigarettes removed from public displays, not sure if it will have much of an effect but worth a go.
However this idea of making manufacturers sell their cancer sticks in plain packaging is just stupid, it all just seems so childish and is certainly not going to stop people from smoking!
By: - 29th April 2010 at 15:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I too am a keen non-smoker and totally in favour of smoking bans in public buildings (not so sure about open spaces, but I do find cigarette smoke in the street unpleasant).
However, I think that the main point of cigarette packaging and advertising (these days, anyway) is not to get people to start smoking, but to persuade those who already smoke to pick a particular brand.
By: - 29th April 2010 at 15:33 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I am ambivalent on this. I haven't smoked for 40 years and loathe the habit. Governments protest their desire to inculcate the no-smoking habit in the young, meanwhile millions of people continue to do what they, at the moment, are free to do within severely restrictive parametres.
The one thing they could do, and which they have not fought shy of in other areas, is to increase the tax on smoking, dramatically.
Ooops, I forgot, they desperately need the revenue............;)
By: - 29th April 2010 at 15:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
How's this going to stop people smoking? I really don't see the point. Do they really think smokers will go to the shop, and not seeing the brands there, forget what they went in for, or not bother? I despair...:rolleyes:
By: - 29th April 2010 at 16:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I have never smoked and have never had the urge to. But one thing I can be certain of is that I if I were a smoker I would not care whether they came in a plain box, one with flashing lights or a black plastic sack.
Somebody tell the government its not the box that gets smoked as they seem to have neglected this fact.
I agreed with banning smoking in the workplace and the places I work have improved greatly due to it, Although in effect it just meant everybody stands outside instead now, And every office block and building can be spotted miles off by watching out for the smoke clouds.
I also think that cutting the advertising was a sensible move too, But I can not see how this idea with the plain box will work, Infact it could have opposite move by making smoking seem taboo which often appeals more to the young.
Also how much does the government really want to stop smokers?, surely stopping them will leave a huge hole in the taxes raised from this habit, I assume more profit is made from smoking than is spent on hospital care for smokers.
By: - 29th April 2010 at 20:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
cant see the point , now we'll just have plain cigarette packet litter thrown on the floor instead of coloured ones to accompany all the fag ends strewn about like confetti :mad:
By: - 29th April 2010 at 20:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Will it affect my montecristos,i don't think so.
By: - 30th April 2010 at 00:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Several ppl missing the point here.
Branding is a key factor in getting people on the hook. To replace the ppl giving up / dying, the industry has to encourage people to smoke. Mainly children aged 10 to 14. A decent packet image can sway a kid in that direction, or rather in the direction of the lifestyle that brand depicts.
This is why Ferrari F1 cars carry the Marlboro bar-code on the centre fin.
I am a smoker, trying to give up, but work is sooooooooooooooo ship at the moment, if I gave up I would eat concrete, after I'd hit somebody with it.
By: - 30th April 2010 at 07:55 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Cobblers PeeDee. The biggest thing that starts kids that age smoking is peer pressure. They don't start because the box looks pretty. Good luck to you with giving up though :)
By: - 30th April 2010 at 12:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Tax juicy cheeseburgers and sell them in plain packaging?
Oi, leave my cheeseburgers alone. You've been warned! :dev2:
By: - 30th April 2010 at 12:51 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
It's 33 years since I last had a lovely fag,and I could still fancy one whenever anyone lights up near me. I don't think the liking for smoking ever entirely leaves you, and plain packets won't make a scrap of difference.
It's tough but you'll manage it, PeeDee. Keep thinking of the money you'll save.
By: - 30th April 2010 at 13:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
On the contrary, Bumble, the yearning does eventually disappear - especially if you keep away from those nasty people who do it in your presence (after all, they can't do it in many public places, apart from the great outdoors.
Besides which, think about the prospect of living long and prospering (paraphrase!) - literally 'costs a packet!' nowadays.;)
Good luck in your attempt!
By: - 30th April 2010 at 13:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Cobblers PeeDee. The biggest thing that starts kids that age smoking is peer pressure. They don't start because the box looks pretty. Good luck to you with giving up though :)
Yous misreadin or I's mistypin.
The "Start" is peer pressure, the brand decision is adverts and packaging. And the whole concept of marketing / branding is in fact to make somebody buy something they didn't realise they needed. For any product, not just the smokes. And that's straight from the mouth of Phil Kotler, he's the Dogs B of Marketing. Helped me get 95% in the marketing part of my degree.
By: - 30th April 2010 at 14:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yup and this thread is beginning to run in parallel to the smoking one - for the same reasons.
By: - 30th April 2010 at 15:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Cheers PeeDee, Ive just googled Phil Kotler and its going in my assignment:):):)
By: - 30th April 2010 at 17:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
All this is going to do is save the cigarette company's money on packaging, it must be cheaper to produce a plain pack than one with a lot of branding on it.
By: - 4th May 2010 at 00:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I do not now smoke , if these ciggys are supposed to be bad for your health as the Govt are always telling you WHY don't they totaly BAN them ????:mad::mad:
If they are so concerned are they prepared to lose the massive ammount of taxes they get ??? MONEY BEFORE HEALTH are they prepared to put HEALTH before MONEY, I do not think so. :eek::eek:
By: - 4th May 2010 at 09:04 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hypocrisy rules or rather expediency. It is the same augument as banning alcohol as, arguably, being a far more injurious drug than cannabis.
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By: steve rowell - 29th April 2010 at 00:15
Will plain packaging stop you from killing yourself??
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/federal-government-to-make-plain-packaging-compulsory-on-cigarette-packs/story-e6frf7jo-1225859576545