By: John Green
- 16th September 2014 at 18:30Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There was no intention of querying the decision. The query was about what had caused it. Neither myself or one other forum member could see any justification.
If no Moderator can throw any light on what seems to be an unwarranted admonition them, perhaps some other person/s can.
By: charliehunt
- 16th September 2014 at 19:04Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
That won't get you anywhere, John. And my post was deleted. I don't suppose it will be long before Moggy gets his hands on these two as well.....:rolleyes:
By: j_jza80
- 16th September 2014 at 19:31Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
It is in fact one of the many reasons the UK populance and their elected representatives need to extract their collective heads from their rear ends and take responsibility for the environment and society they have collectively created and stop blaming anyone but themselves.
Joining the EEC was a huge mistake, and that is something that we should be taking responsibility for. Ratifying treaties that have created the aggressive socialist superstate is something else we should be deeply ashamed of.
The immigrants do not want to stay in France, they want to make it to the UK as they perceive the UK's regime to be more beneficial for them than France's or other places in Europe.
How that is France's issue or anywhere else in Europe's issue or the EU's issue collectively is beyond me. It is a UK issue of UK making.
Britain sewed the seeds of this problem long before the creation of the EU. We exported out culture and our language across the world, and so of course people want to come here from all over the world.
Why should other nations have to pay a considerable cost to secure, as you put it, their borders from persons who have no interest in staying in those countries but wish to go to another country, the UK, that they perceive as offering them a better life?
Border policing is one of the primary functions of any government. This is the flaw with your Schengen zone, it does not allow for national security, and is an utter farce. I could drive from one end of Europe to the other with a Nuclear weapon, without anyone batting an eyelid. It is beyond ridiculous, made even worse by the fact that Turkey is soon to be admitted to your little club, a country we know to have assisted groups like IS.
It is well within the powers of UK politicans to pass law that prevents assistance or benefits going to illegal immigrants for either an extended period post arrival or ever. Do that, publicise it, pay the cost of rounding up and deporting illegal immigrants and ensure that the hardships of being an illegal immirgant in the UK are well publicised in those countries wence they come and you will see a reduction in such traffic.
I doubt you understand what these people are going through. They aren't vermin, they're humans who are treated like animals by the French. Do you really think a little publicity is going to make any difference to someone who has escaped their homeland for fear of death? What a joke.
EU problem my ****. UK problem created by UK people.
Its funny how the UK pays for your little socialist club, yet when we object to anything about it, we seem to get labelled as a problem.
We have a saying here - 'don't bite the hand that feeds you'. That is exactly what our European neighbours are doing to us, and the reason for such anti EU feeling in the UK.
By: Edgar Brooks
- 16th September 2014 at 23:56Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
If no Moderator can throw any light on what seems to be an unwarranted admonition them, perhaps some other person/s can.
I fear, John, that you don't understand the system.
It's perfectly acceptable for someone to insult this nation and its people; it's perfectly acceptable for someone to include THAT four-letter word in their pseudonym; it's perfectly acceptable to use offensive language and (inadequately) "hide" swearwords with asterisks.
However, if you defend this nation's reputation, using normal, everyday words and language, you break the site's rules.
By: snafu352
- 17th September 2014 at 16:41Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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A distinct absence of much in the way of fact in your drivel.
The UK was such a great place when maggie was around wasn't it, no poor people, no unemployment, no hardship, nobody protesting or complaining.... unless you lived in the North or Scotland...but they are just unjustified whiners aren't they so they don't matter.
In fact the UK in the 80's was almost as good as that non-existant utopia of the 50's wasn't it ;-)
The EU is not the cause of the issues that you old people are all so upset about. It is your own actions, greed and selfishness that is coming back to bite you.
No wonder you constantly seek to blame others! :-)
Of course once you've all manged to rip the UK away from the EU and the ship commences sinking it will be somebody elses fault for that as well.
By: John Green
- 17th September 2014 at 18:27Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I'll drink to that.
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By: snafu
- 17th September 2014 at 22:17Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Oh, good grief. Someone disagrees with you therefore they are a troll. Someone gives an opposing view to yours so they must be a troll. Don't debate, don't attempt to convince the 'troll' they are wrong and certainly don't look at what they are saying and try to see why they might think that way and NEVER accept that view and change your own mind, oh no.
If you like Bruce delete me but a disruptive influence on this forum does nothing for peace and harmony!
I like Bruce - although not in that way - but I don't see what that has to do with anything. But, as I said above, peace and harmony to you would consist purely of no one expressing a view contrary to your own.
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By: Bruce - 16th September 2014 at 12:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Gentlemen,
When we start name calling, it is tempting to consider the argument lost. Please keep to the topic at hand, and discuss the argument, not the man.
Bruce
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By: John Green - 16th September 2014 at 12:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Have I missed something ?
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By: John Green - 16th September 2014 at 13:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Moderation decisions are not up for discussion.
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By: John Green - 16th September 2014 at 18:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There was no intention of querying the decision. The query was about what had caused it. Neither myself or one other forum member could see any justification.
If no Moderator can throw any light on what seems to be an unwarranted admonition them, perhaps some other person/s can.
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By: charliehunt - 16th September 2014 at 19:04 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
That won't get you anywhere, John. And my post was deleted. I don't suppose it will be long before Moggy gets his hands on these two as well.....:rolleyes:
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By: j_jza80 - 16th September 2014 at 19:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Joining the EEC was a huge mistake, and that is something that we should be taking responsibility for. Ratifying treaties that have created the aggressive socialist superstate is something else we should be deeply ashamed of.
Britain sewed the seeds of this problem long before the creation of the EU. We exported out culture and our language across the world, and so of course people want to come here from all over the world.
Border policing is one of the primary functions of any government. This is the flaw with your Schengen zone, it does not allow for national security, and is an utter farce. I could drive from one end of Europe to the other with a Nuclear weapon, without anyone batting an eyelid. It is beyond ridiculous, made even worse by the fact that Turkey is soon to be admitted to your little club, a country we know to have assisted groups like IS.
I doubt you understand what these people are going through. They aren't vermin, they're humans who are treated like animals by the French. Do you really think a little publicity is going to make any difference to someone who has escaped their homeland for fear of death? What a joke.
Its funny how the UK pays for your little socialist club, yet when we object to anything about it, we seem to get labelled as a problem.
We have a saying here - 'don't bite the hand that feeds you'. That is exactly what our European neighbours are doing to us, and the reason for such anti EU feeling in the UK.
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By: Edgar Brooks - 16th September 2014 at 23:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I fear, John, that you don't understand the system.
It's perfectly acceptable for someone to insult this nation and its people; it's perfectly acceptable for someone to include THAT four-letter word in their pseudonym; it's perfectly acceptable to use offensive language and (inadequately) "hide" swearwords with asterisks.
However, if you defend this nation's reputation, using normal, everyday words and language, you break the site's rules.
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By: snafu352 - 17th September 2014 at 16:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
A distinct absence of much in the way of fact in your drivel.
The UK was such a great place when maggie was around wasn't it, no poor people, no unemployment, no hardship, nobody protesting or complaining.... unless you lived in the North or Scotland...but they are just unjustified whiners aren't they so they don't matter.
In fact the UK in the 80's was almost as good as that non-existant utopia of the 50's wasn't it ;-)
The EU is not the cause of the issues that you old people are all so upset about. It is your own actions, greed and selfishness that is coming back to bite you.
No wonder you constantly seek to blame others! :-)
Of course once you've all manged to rip the UK away from the EU and the ship commences sinking it will be somebody elses fault for that as well.
Typical over privledged baby boomer behaviour.
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By: j_jza80 - 17th September 2014 at 16:46 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Have your little rant about my great country, even with it's faults it is still a far better place than Luxembourg will ever be :highly_amused:
And I don't know why you've assumed (incorrectly) that I'm a baby boomer?
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By: charliehunt - 17th September 2014 at 17:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
JJ - He is a blinkered Europhile Luxumbourgeois and therefore can be excused the utter bilge he incessantly writes here.
He deserves our pity not our scorn.
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By: John Green - 17th September 2014 at 18:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I'll drink to that.
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By: snafu - 17th September 2014 at 22:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Oh, good grief. Someone disagrees with you therefore they are a troll. Someone gives an opposing view to yours so they must be a troll. Don't debate, don't attempt to convince the 'troll' they are wrong and certainly don't look at what they are saying and try to see why they might think that way and NEVER accept that view and change your own mind, oh no.
I like Bruce - although not in that way - but I don't see what that has to do with anything. But, as I said above, peace and harmony to you would consist purely of no one expressing a view contrary to your own.
Is it? Mine prefer Winalot, but by the tin...
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By: Moggy C - 17th September 2014 at 22:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thread closed as it has descended into an undignified name-calling shambles. It may reopen eventually.
Moggy
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