How sneaky can they get?.

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Treated myself to fishcakes and chips tonight, as I hadn't had them for ages. "Do you want salt and vinegar love" I was asked, I replied in the affirmative, and the lass shook, and shook the salt container, as if the holes were blocked, I said I didn't want what appeared to be an overdose of salt, to which I was told... GET THIS...Elf and Safety told them they had to get rid of the "Old" salt container, which had 16 holes in it, and to replace it with one which had only 5 holes in it. Failure to comply would result in the Chippy being marked down in the report. Makes one wonder what we, as the general public, don't know what various government departments get up to that we never find out about. 1984 springs to mind. Jim Lincoln .7
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Was she spinning you a tale, Linc? Not sure what such a ruling would have to do with H&S and in any case if it was that serious why didn't they buy a 5-holer and decant the salt?;)
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My local chippy still use the same salt shakers they have had for years, you've been had.
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I did delve further into this, and it's part, it would seem, that it is to limit the amount of salt that is put onto F & Chips. Who are these A'holes to dictate on how we kill ourselves?. Talk about a Nanny State. Jim. Lincoln .7
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My local chippy still use the same salt shakers they have had for years, you've been had.
Or perchance they havn't had a visit yet?. Jim. Lincoln .7
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Would make no difference to me as the chippy don't put on enough & I add to it when I get home. Is there a review of home salt shakers coming?
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Dont know, I use a twist salt dispenser. Jim Lincoln .7
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Simple solution.............drill out the holes to twice their size.
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Looks like 5 holed shakers started in Gateshead around 2008, now down to Lincolnshire. Beware its spreading rapidly. :highly_amused: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1030164/Now-health-safety-cut-number-holes-chip-shop-salt-shakers.html
Thanks for that link Richard, just proves it wasn't a load of B/S that I posted. However, as stated, Just what is going on behind the scenes that we, the public don't get to know before it's too late to do anything about it. Accept it or not, we DO live in a shady, Nanny State. Jim Lincoln .7

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EU Directive 666 dated 12th August 2015. Prohibition of salt (sodium /potassium chloride) (sea or land origin) for all uses in connection with food seasoning. All vessels capable of storing, holding and discharging salt will, from the above date, be restricted in capacity and orifice discharge capability. No more than five (0.5mm) ODCs (orifice discharge capability) will be permitted per discharge vessel. The Prohibition of Salt Regulation 666 permits of one exemption. EU Member States are to advise their nationals that the custom of Salt Throwing over the left shoulder will be permitted when it can be shown that the Member State seeking Derogation can demonstrate that the habit and custom and practise of Salt Throwing to ward off or nullify malevolent influences is still in common use. The named Derogation does not apply when the malevolent influence is named as the EU or any of its associated components.
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John You do realise that there are some amongt us, non-believers and cynicists, who just might not believe this. I know we should ignore them and ostracise them but in a free society, on an unemcumbered, liberal forum..........need I say more?
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Who the bloody hell do these idiots think they are, I bet if it were a Muslim owned chippy, they would get away with it on religious grounds.It's things like this, that makes my blood boil. The sooner we get out of the E.U, the better. Next thing they will tell us that at the last night of the Proms, we wont be allowed to play "Rule Brittania, Brittania rules the waves" Think I had better go and have a cuppa to calm down, (Is there a ruling by the E.U. as to how many spoonfulls of sugar I am allowed to have?. if not there soon will be) Pillocks. Jim Lincoln .7

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Have a look at the EU Directive that features the new requirements for vacuum cleaners (some of these regs are already in force). Efficiency on 'hard' floors and on carpets is specified, along with the testing requirements http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex:32013R0666 This regulation contains some 'interesting' reading, if anybody is sufficiently bored to spend the time! :sleeping: To save you some of the boring stuff, you can skip most of the preamble, the meat of it starts at Annexe 1. Enjoy!

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Pointless Post Snafu, I want to live the life I want to live, not to be governed by what others state how I should live. Once we abide by all and everything, we have lost our FREEDOM. I will not be dictated to. Jim. Lincoln .7
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And there is another serious aspect to all this advice. Over weeks, months and years it is frequently contradictory. To the extent that I suspect now the "general public" is becoming sick (no pun intended) of it all and simply ignoring it. That too is a pity because some advice in some areas is very helpful. The best advice I was ever given, many years ago, at a company health check was not to worry unduly about anything I ate or drank, but with the occasional exception, always to eat and drink in moderation. If everyone followed this advice the billions spent on diets could probably be saved at a stroke, for the benefit of the consumer but not, of course, the vast commercial machine propounding the, usually specious and unnecessary, remedies.

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Lincoln, For somebody who is constantly complaining (about the NHS, amongst other things) to express the attitude you just have rather exposes you. Those who wish to live the life they want to live then expect the rest of us to pay for the results of that life are generally termed selfish. Absolutely agree Charlie, the sad fact is there are seemingly a majority who simply want to live the life they want to live and don't care what the cost of that individual existence is to society as a whole. They want the benefits of living in a certain society but are not prepared to face up to and accept the responsibilities and consequences of living in that society. Lincoln has neatly demonstrated for us that exact attitude. I've paid my taxes, so I'm entitled. The simple fact that the tax revenue does not equate to the required spend should we all live the life we want to live wizzes right over the head of these special butterflies. Freedom and other such stupid rallying cries should be reserved for crappy Australians pretending to be American pretending to be Scottish in crappy films. (although it did have a young(ish) Sophie Marceau in it so...)
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I do not complain about the NHS, I think they do a great job in difficult circumstances, they have saved my life more than once, so why should I complain about the treatment I get?. Also, Yes, I have paid my N.I. and Tax since the day I left school, and now in my 75th year,I am still paying my Income Tax, which is a lot more than some I know who just sponge off the State so yes, I do consider that I should get the treatment as and when deemed fit. Freedom, the remark you made is taking the pi** out of the thousands who died for just that reason, so we could have the freedom to do what we want to, and not to be dictated to by others. With respect Snaf, I think your remarks are those typical of those I call, PILLOCKS. Jim. Lincoln .7.

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You sir seem totally obvious to the fact that in you doing what you want you are actually dictating to others in exactly the fashion you so decry. It is apparently alright for you as a special butterfly to have exactly what you want but everybody else has to pay for that to fund your medical treatment. How does that fit in with the personal responsibility you are rather keen to accuse others of rejecting? Pot meet kettle. It is also interesting that yet again you resort to name calling when your selfish little rant is shown for what it is. Hypothetically: You have shown that you are not prepared to limit your salt intake thus exposing yourself to increased risk of heart disease; are you prepared to sign a disclaimer or waiver stating that should you suffer from such a complication you will not take free medical treatment at cost to society? If you are crack on and munch that salt, if not however why should society have to fund your treatment? You have knowingly and in full awareness accepted the risk and now expect society to bail you out. Then you complain about the governments attempts to gently help you reduce salt intake in an attempt to prevent medical complications and thus cost. There's a name for that.

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Are those who stuff themselves with too many cream buns - about 3 miilion at the last count - thus leading to an epidemic of obesity and an early encounter with Type 2 and ultimately Type 1 diabetes with its attendant debilitation leading to amputation, blindness, uncontainable infections and neurological damage, also expected to sign your ridiculous waiver/disclaimer ? We are now, according to the World Health Organisation, the second fattest nation on this Earth. We should try a bit harder. Treating obesity is the single largest item of expenditure in the NHS budget. Compared with this, excessive salt intake hardly shows as a blip on the radar. There is, as far as I'm aware, no single piece of extensive epidemiologically based research that, unquestionably, points to a correlation between an excessive intake of sodium chloride and hypertension. By contrast, Richard Doll's investigation into the relationship between smoking and lung cancer revealed an unmistakeable link.