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Apart from the fact that Mark Carney didn't say that JG, which is why I give this cheap and unreliable rag a wide berth..... other than that and all the other mistakes they got it spot on.....

Now why is it when the narrative of a future specualtion suits your view, it's stone hard fact, whereas when business leaders and intellectuals and experts in their field forecast future conditions based on their significant expereince it's written off by you. Your biases cloud and inhibit any sensible and lucid reasoning.


Some business leaders are likely to be biased based on where their current markets lie and are therefore resistant to change.

What May needs to start doing is setting the tariffs and non-tariff barriers in preparation for a no deal. Provide certainty.

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So they will have to start making cars here to sell them here after Brexit.

Cars are selling all the time, after Brexit NTBs alone could slow the supply of cars from the EU down to a trickle, not to mention jacking up the price on top of tariffs, so car manufacturers left in the UK will have the competitive advantage.

And incur huge set-up costs that will add even more to the cost of the car...... and pay imports on materials and components etc. etc.........

Think we tried it before, anyway, it gave us the delights of the Marina, and Allegro and Princess...... How about we set up a state car and build........................... is the Trabant prouduction line for sale?

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Some business leaders are likely to be biased based on where their current markets lie and are therefore resistant to change.

ALL business leaders will be doing what is best for their business, for profit, for jobs, for growth, it's not being biased at all, it's survival, it's economics, it's business sense. They are far from resistent to (enforced and irrational) change, but they will state stupidity when they see it (and have).

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Your Trabant mention is exemplary. Trabants, now change hands for up to ten times their original price ! No doubt complete with Stasi concealed listening devices.

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So they will have to start making cars here to sell them here after Brexit.

Cars are selling all the time, after Brexit NTBs alone could slow the supply of cars from the EU down to a trickle, not to mention jacking up the price on top of tariffs, so car manufacturers left in the UK will have the competitive advantage.

And incur huge set-up costs that will add even more to the cost of the car...... and pay imports on materials and components etc. etc.........

Think we tried it before, anyway, it gave us the delights of the Marina, and Allegro and Princess...... How about we set up a state car and build........................... is the Trabant prouduction line for sale?


Set-up costs are not recurring, tariff and NTB costs are. Yes, the same tariff will have to be applied to some of the parts and components but manufacturers based here will still have a massive advantage over foreign manufacturers who will have the entire car (including labour costs) tariffed and have to pay for NTBs like SVA testing. SVA testing would also slow the supply of their cars down to a trickle as well, so they simply wouldn't be able to meet demand or compete, no way no how.

Labour unions gave us those crocks of crap.

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Firstly, Brexit hasn't happened yet. Secondly, exclusion from the ETS should be beneficial for an airline because it means their emissions are uncapped and they don't have to buy as many credits.

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Another Brexiter who tells us Brexit is going to be great - but decides he cannot stay in Britain to enjoy the greatness.

Tax avoidance. Greedy swine but nothing to do with Brexit.

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Firstly, Brexit hasn't happened yet. Secondly, exclusion from the ETS should be beneficial for an airline because it means their emissions are uncapped and they don't have to buy as many credits.

Because airlines (and other businesses) don't have a 5 year plan, they plan week to week???? :rolleyes: and clearly they are wrong in their official statement and you know better??? :stupid:

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I'm seeing poor excuses coming from a badly ran, failing airline. If we accept that Brexit is the reason, then why aren't all British airlines bust?

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Think you’ve forgotten to take your pills once again Mr BS....

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I’m seeing poor excuses coming from a badly ran, failing airline. If we accept that Brexit is the reason, then why aren't all British airlines bust?

So on that simplistic and infantile analysis then all car manufacturers should be bust as Rover went bust and all newsagents should be bust as my local went bust. I suspect you’re not clever enough to understand business.

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In a tweet, Mr Tomlinson said: "Honda are clear this is based on global trends and not Brexit, as all European market production will consolidate in Japan in 2021."

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I’m seeing poor excuses coming from a badly ran, failing airline. If we accept that Brexit is the reason, then why aren't all British airlines bust?

So on that simplistic and infantile analysis then all car manufacturers should be bust as Rover went bust and all newsagents should be bust as my local went bust. I suspect you’re not clever enough to understand business.


Rover went bust because of its own bad management and unions. So I think your comeback is actually agreeing with my point. Rover did not go bust due to Brexit.

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So the fragile state of the economy and the uncertainty caused by brexit has nothing to with this mass exodus St John. Sadly you continue to display a naivety beyond belief.

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So the fragile state of the economy and the uncertainty caused by brexit has nothing to with this mass exodus St John. Sadly you continue to display a naivety beyond belief.

I know that ultimately the net importer will be in the stronger position come tariffs and NTBs. Three times as many cars come from the EU to the UK as vice-versa. Lose 800k vehicle exports gain 2.5m sales in the UK without having to arrange shipping.