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By: 29th August 2017 at 16:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-If North Korea does finally cross the line or USA/South Korea feel forced into starting hostilities
With North Korea armed with Nuclear weapons and Seoul right south of the border it would take something of seismic proportions to force the South Koreans to start hostilities.
what air assets would be likely to be deployed against the enemy and how might they be used?
Everything that can carry an ammunition or a recon capability?
Cheers
By: 30th August 2017 at 12:55 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-James Clapper: For the first time I agree with Bannon on North Korea
By: 1st September 2017 at 18:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-If North Korea does finally cross the line or USA/South Korea feel forced into starting hostilities, what air assets would be likely to be deployed against the enemy and how might they be used?
The most important question to be asked in the Korean theatre is basically to the Japanese and the South Koreans, and that is -----> Are they ready to die to keep America safe.
A second Korean war would be as bloody as the first, if not more. But unlike the first, the second Korean war is likely to bring to the table a real possibility of the bully getting punched in face (read continental US). This is what has unsettled the muricans and the hawks inside murica would love to fight to the last Korean and Japanese to keep continental America safe, but is that what the Japanese and Koreans want? I guess not.
The First Korean war is known as the Forgotten War in the US, the second Korean war, if it happens, wont be.
By: 1st September 2017 at 19:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-NKorea is shooting missiles off b/c it sees the USs shows of force and exersises the same way that we see its missile launches.
NK is trying to force the US into negotitation.
As for assets , Russia and China will not tolerate an attack from the US here. It would be a war with Russian and Chinese air forces and anti aircraft assest. It would be a gong show. Dog fights would break out. US tankers would be attacked ect.
By: 2nd September 2017 at 06:12 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The most important question to be asked in the Korean theatre is basically to the Japanese and the South Koreans, and that is -----> Are they ready to die to keep America safe.A second Korean war would be as bloody as the first, if not more. But unlike the first, the second Korean war is likely to bring to the table a real possibility of the bully getting punched in face (read continental US). This is what has unsettled the muricans and the hawks inside murica would love to fight to the last Korean and Japanese to keep continental America safe, but is that what the Japanese and Koreans want? I guess not.
Its a damned outrage that the US got involved in the Korean conflict in the first place. If they hadn't come in blundering with their neo-imperialistic arrogance, all of Korea might have had an opportunity to experience the joys of living under the guidance of the people's Dear Leader Kim-il-sung and his equally wise successors.
The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a genuine workers' state in which all the people are completely liberated from exploitation and oppression. The workers, peasants, soldiers and intellectuals are the true masters of their destiny and are in a unique position to defend their interests. - http://www.korea-dpr.com/
By: 2nd September 2017 at 06:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-As for assets , Russia and China will not tolerate an attack from the US here. It would be a war with Russian and Chinese air forces and anti aircraft assest. It would be a gong show. Dog fights would break out. US tankers would be attacked ect.
Russia would engage in full scale war against the US, dogfights and all... to defend Kim Jong Un and Juche socialism?
By: 2nd September 2017 at 07:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The Yankees will go home bombing Noko to hell but in kind they will be Nuke Soko and Japs ...with millions of refugees entering China and Russia and even South Korea.
North korea is a artificially created crisis by Trump to divert attention from his domestic problems , Every president gets good rating domestically if he is a war president .....So I wont be surprised if Trump pushes for war.
Hopefully Trump would listen to Bannon if not any one
By: 2nd September 2017 at 08:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The Yankees will go home bombing Noko to hell but in kind they will be Nuke Soko and Japs ...with millions of refugees entering China and Russia and even South Korea.
The US has 30,000+ military personnel in South Korea, 40,000+ in Japan with another 5,000 in Guam. Plus the 160,000 people of Guam who are still US citizens. That should address the argument about US egging on a war from a 'safe' distance.
With respect to the refugee argument - North Korea as a country is about as rural as they come. Bombing identifiable military targets is unlikely to cause a great deal of collateral damage. There will of course still be a sizeable refugee flow towards the south - for the simple reason that they are citizens of North Korea. The DMZ is the Korean equivalent of the Berlin wall, designed to keep the domestic population penned as much as it is to keep foreign forces at bay. The fall of the Berlin Wall led to an exodus to the West - that doesn't mean that reunification was the wrong thing to do.
North korea is a artificially created crisis
Not for the North Korean people, it isn't (though yes, Trump is a blowhard).
By: 2nd September 2017 at 17:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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Originally Posted by Vnomad
Russia would engage in full scale war against the US, dogfights and all... to defend Kim Jong Un and Juche socialism?
you should check the definition of word "full scale". what about half scale and one fourth scale?
I wouldn't be surprise Trump is doing this as favor to Russia by escalating in Korea. Already tourist and factories are fleeing Korea. hot war will make North Korea victory assured as people in South simply cant live in that standard of living. they don't have oil like Iraq.
After the war only Russia can rebuild that new Korea with Turkish contractors help. Germany knows that result.
https://www.thelocal.de/20170811/merkel-condemns-verbal-escalation-with-north-korea-after-trump-tweets
Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Friday that she opposed any use of force to resolve the conflict with North Korea, after President Donald Trump said the US military was "locked and loaded"
By: 2nd September 2017 at 20:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The most important question to be asked in the Korean theatre is basically to the Japanese and the South Koreans, and that is -----> Are they ready to die to keep America safe.
A second Korean war would be as bloody as the first, if not more. But unlike the first, the second Korean war is likely to bring to the table a real possibility of the bully getting punched in face (read continental US). This is what has unsettled the muricans and the hawks inside murica would love to fight to the last Korean and Japanese to keep continental America safe, but is that what the Japanese and Koreans want? I guess not.
The First Korean war is known as the Forgotten War in the US, the second Korean war, if it happens, wont be.
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US has been very tolerant of North Korea's antics as long as they weren't a threat to the US mainland. US tolerated North Korea sinking a SK warship, tolerated the shelling of SK island, tolerated IRBM launches, tolerated NK building nuke weapons, and tolerated NK testing nuke weapons, all because they wren't a threat to the US AND because Seoul was 30 miles from thousands of NK artillery pieces.
That all changed (after knowing they weaponized a nuke warhead and didn't tell us) when they tested a ballistic missile a few weeks ago that could very likely reach the US mainland. As long as NK could not reach us with a nuke tipped missile, US was restraint, but now the game has changed and NK crossed a line that President Trump said the US would not tolerate. This is not about South Korea anymore but the security of the US, and if Seoul has to be sacrificed to take out NK's capability to hit the US with a nuke tipped missile, then so be it and too bad for Seoul for not moving its capital after the Korean war. I predict Trump will take action in early 2018 only because of the whispers I'm hearing at work (I'm a civilian tech for US Navy). I will not blame Trump for the mess that we're about to get in, i blame the previous administrations for kicking the can.
By: 3rd September 2017 at 09:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I will not blame Trump for the mess that we're about to get in, i blame the previous administrations for kicking the can.
It looks like there is no more road to kick the can down. According to reports N Korea has just tested a hydrogen bomb that can be delivered by its ICBM. Too late to stop N Korea developing that capability through military action against the country. I would say that "diplomacy"(how to hurt N Korea as much as possible by non-military means) is the only road to walk down now. Is king Kim mad enough (I mean crazy, not angry) to attack US territory or assets? I don't think so.
By: 3rd September 2017 at 10:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Is king Kim mad enough (I mean crazy, not angry) to attack US territory or assets? I don't think so.
I still wouldn't want to live in Guam right now!
By: 3rd September 2017 at 11:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-What threat is there to Guam?
If North Korea launch their large atom bomb missile at Guam, their is a good chance it will fail and an even better chance it be intercepted.
In 10 years time though....
By: 3rd September 2017 at 13:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Thanks to Ukraine, North Korea have working ICBM with thermonuclear warhead. If mad Trump attack North Korea, than Kim will do his best to sink California to the Pacific ocean. Thermonuclear ICBMs are the best guaranties, that US will not attack North Korea and to secure peace there.
By: 3rd September 2017 at 19:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Thanks to Ukraine, North Korea have nothing new
FIFY
http://www.stopfake.org/en/ukraine-did-not-supply-north-korea-with-missile-engines/
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-north-korea-missiles-nuclear-scientists-649702
They tried it before
By: 3rd September 2017 at 19:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-That link is basically Yuzmash saying "we didn't do it, believe us".
By: 3rd September 2017 at 20:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-@Vnomad
They did last time. Both China and the USSR went to war with the US over Korea. Russia in more of an advisory position but China proper attacked last time.
By: 3rd September 2017 at 20:49 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-@Spudman
Thanks to the Ukraine precedent, ( the US not respecting neutral, non aligned status of countries, as stipulated in Budapest Memorandum), China and Russia must defend NK at all costs. Because the US will try and make a colony of it at any chance. Then comes color revolutions and the missile shields ect
By: 3rd September 2017 at 21:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-It looks like there is no more road to kick the can down. According to reports N Korea has just tested a hydrogen bomb that can be delivered by its ICBM. Too late to stop N Korea developing that capability through military action against the country. I would say that "diplomacy"(how to hurt N Korea as much as possible by non-military means) is the only road to walk down now. Is king Kim mad enough (I mean crazy, not angry) to attack US territory or assets? I don't think so.
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The US is more than capable in taking out NK's nuclear missile capability and program by conventional means. Of course Seoul would be hit by thousands of NK artillery rounds and rockets.
By: 4th September 2017 at 01:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-They did last time. Both China and the USSR went to war with the US over Korea. Russia in more of an advisory position but China proper attacked last time.
Maoist China came to the rescue of communist Korea with outside support from the Soviets.
Thanks to the Ukraine precedent, ( the US not respecting neutral, non aligned status of countries, as stipulated in Budapest Memorandum), China and Russia must defend NK at all costs. Because the US will try and make a colony of it at any chance. Then comes color revolutions and the missile shields ect
Even if that means condemning the North Korean people to another few decades under Kim-il-Sung's dynasty.
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By: Spitfire9 - 29th August 2017 at 07:09
This is posted soon North Korea seriously raised tensions in east Asia by routing a ballistic missile over northern Japan. It is reported that 3 missiles were launched, one of which malfunctioned and broke up early in its flight. What if it had been the one passing over Hokkaido and had crashed down onto Japanese soil? I believe that would have been an act of war (intentional or not).
If North Korea does finally cross the line or USA/South Korea feel forced into starting hostilities, what air assets would be likely to be deployed against the enemy and how might they be used?