Dug up at Deopham Green ?

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I have been to another meeting with the visiting veterans at Deopham Green today, There was a small display of all things to do with 452nd BG on display including a selection of parts ploughed up, or otherwise collected from the airfield area by local farmers etc ... there are no positive id's to any of the parts, so armed with camera ... will feed the photos slowly to save confusion ! Firstly, this was said to be from a Halifax which crashed just outside the airfield ???? Part 1a http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/coventry/deopham%20green/DSC_0052.jpg Part 1b http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/coventry/deopham%20green/DSC_0053.jpg Part 1c http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/coventry/deopham%20green/DSC_0054.jpg Part 1d http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/coventry/deopham%20green/DSC_0055.jpg
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Interesting.. any part numbers?
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Unfortunatly not Peter, I did a quick scan of all the parts and found no numbers at all !!! :mad:
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Don't think its Halifax, looks like wing structure from a B17.
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ian ... yes B-17 could well be .... "I know nothing"
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I saw a bit of B17 while clearing my loft which looked similar. On closer inspection I might be misleading you, same colour, slightly different shape.
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Yes ian I see what you mean .. there will be someone along in a mo who will put us all in the correct ball park ???? :) Meanwhile another small part, a lot of people were picking this up and several suggested a spend cartridge ejection chute ! but no .. far too small .. another talked of chaff dispenser ??? Over to you ??? Part 2a http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/coventry/deopham%20green/DSC_0012.jpg Part 2b http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/coventry/deopham%20green/DSC_0013.jpg Part 2c http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/coventry/deopham%20green/DSC_0014.jpg Part 2d http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/coventry/deopham%20green/DSC_0015.jpg Part 2e http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/coventry/deopham%20green/DSC_0016.jpg

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metal link ejector....

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attaches to the side of the gun
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Thanks for those answers ! metal link ? that's what joins the shells together in a machine gun supply chain ! ?? :confused: A few more of the artifacts dredged up from the Norfolk soil ...... Actualy the first part, possibly from the exhaust / supercharger area, has been used by my friend the farmer for many many years as part of the downpipe system on one of his buildings ????? Part 3a http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/coventry/deopham%20green/DSC_0002.jpg Part 3b http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/coventry/deopham%20green/DSC_0003.jpg These I think are spark plug transit cases ? apparently they are everywhere ! Part 4a http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/coventry/deopham%20green/DSC_0017.jpg Small alloy casting / cover with 'T' section protrusion ?? Part 5a http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/coventry/deopham%20green/DSC_0023.jpg Part 5b http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/coventry/deopham%20green/DSC_0025.jpg
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The casting is the rocker cover from a radial engine cylnder, couldn't say which engine though.
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The spark plug transit cases are actually fake sparkplugs usually filled with moisture absorbing material and were fitted on engines either new ones or overhauled and were swapped with real ones before installing and running an engine.
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ian. thank you for that, I overheard a conversation between two of the vets on the night trying to decide which engine a piston, that was in this display, was from ? there seemed to be no definate answer ?? Peter. Yes I can see that ! Thank you ! It is so easy to listen to those who 'think they know what they are talking about' and believe them ? And so much nicer to get an answer from those who do know what they are talking about .... plastic plugs to fill a gap .... so easy !!! Keith.

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yes, ,(but without seeing the dimensions cant really say for sure but I reckon thats what they are) disintegrating metal links that hold the rds together that then get spewed out of the side of most MGs, so instead of channelling the rounds into the weapon like the feed chutes you get , these help feed the used links out, a bit like the lower intestine if you will......;)

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...trying to decide which engine a piston, that was in this display, was from?
I don't suppose you took a picture of the piston did you?
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Creaking Door. Yes i have these photos of the piston, And to help with scale they are all placed upon an A4 sheet of paper !! Keith. http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/coventry/deopham%20green/DSC_0004.jpg http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/coventry/deopham%20green/DSC_0005.jpg http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/coventry/deopham%20green/DSC_0006.jpg

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Thanks for posting those! I’m not very good with US pistons but my guess would be Pratt & Whitney R-2800.

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Looks like that piston took some serious work with a heavy duty engineer's knocking stick to get it out! seized engine? The rocker cover looks identical to parts we found at a B-17 crash site, so R 1820 Cyclone?

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Actually a Wright R-1820 makes much more sense.....I don’t know why I thought it was from a Pratt & Whitney R-2800; only that ‘looks’ bigger than a Pratt & Whitney R-1830, which I’m fairly sure it isn’t from, as I said US engines aren’t really my thing! :o I’ve got a Wright R-3350 piston that looks similar (which would make sense as the R-3350 was based on a double-row R-1820). I’ll see if I can post a photograph later.
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B-17 42-39977 Hi everyone, Many years ago I was part of the Norwich Aviation Society (now sadly defunct), and we recovered a few parts of a Deopham Green B-17 (42-39977 iirc). It was rather unlucky on the day it was lost, as it crashed shortly after take-off next to the A11. Sadly, all the crew perished. Somewhere I have copies of the official reports. The landowner at the time kindly let us go and dig. Sadly I have no photographs of the relics, which amounted to a few box fulls... mostly spent cartridges from the surface and heavily melted/corroded parts from underground. Many years later I was able to return to the field, as by some miracle the land was sold to the father of a friend I was at school with. Unfortunately, I was not able to locate any more relics. Maybe if I had had a better metal detector, I could have found more. I am pretty certain there is more to be had. If he still owns the land I am pretty sure I could arrange a return trip :) Steve
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Spent shells in an aircraft that crashed on take-off sounds a bit dubious. Blown cases perhaps, from a post-crash fire? Moggy