Your Favourite Control Column Stick/Yoke/Grip!

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Hi Alex,

Another good piece of restoration, well done and very nice to see.  Is there much or, any visual difference between the MiG 15 and 17 throttle assemblies?

Martyn

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Hi, Martyn!

The difference between the MiG15 and MiG17 is quite small. This is mainly the mechanics of the levers of duplicate systems. Visually very difficult to distinguish

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Does anyone know what the white spots are which seem to appear over time on the black stick coating, and how best to treat it & prevent its reoccurance? Thanks in advance.

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Hi Alex, thank you for that.  I did wonder given their very close lineage!

Martynp,

If you are talking about the US 'plastic' B-5/6/7/8 and MC-2 series handles, it is just a naturally occurring oxidation that can simply be wiped off.  It seems to depend on the atmosphere they are kept in and the type of plastic used in original manufacture and is not specific to just one producer.  It is strange, as I have several handles made by Guardian Electric, Bendix, Ansul and Mason etc. all from different periods, some generate the oxidation yet some don't!

Others on this forum may have different methods but, I use an old tooth brush and white spirit for the US handles and WD40 or, similar for the British 'Dunlop' handles.  (obviously take the necessary and appropriate precautions when using any solvent, use gloves, adequate ventilation, away from sources of ignition etc. etc.). 

Again, if you are referring to the cast metal part of a Dunlop handle, it too is oxidization.  Gentle scouring/wire brush to get the 'crust' off  (dust mask!) and clean using WD 40, dry and put a coat of paint over it (I generally use acrylics as, they tend to leave less brush marks or, spray using one of 'Halfords'  finest acrylic rattle cans. 

If there are some small/large 'craters' left after you have cleaned the crust off, use black coloured 'Milli-putt' epoxy modelling filler to fill in the holes, (use a wet finger before it sets to smooth it, rather than wait till it dries and use abrasives, remember not to lick finger at this point).  Then a coat of paint as above.   

But, remember the degree of how much you restore a grip is entirely up to you.  However, Dunlop grips will only start to oxidize if the bare metal is exposed so, a coat of paint will protect it long term.  If you want to preserve it's originality, you must stabilise it before you paint it. 

One way to prevent the oxidization from happening again and also to protect the rubberised 'Vulcanite' covering on Dunlop grips (as they age, the rubber degrades and wipes off, turning your hand black), is to give them a coat of 'Kleer' floor wax, (called 'Future' wax in the US I believe).  However, as the many modellers here will tell you, 'Kleer's' formula has changed and it is not as good or, the same as it used to be.  Fortunately, I brought a couple of the old bottles before the original went out of production!

Hope this helps?

Martyn

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Hi GYD  -  yes, it's primarily the B7 & B8 grips. Thanks so much for taking the time to reply, particularly regarding preservation. I usually use wax polish, but I'll try WD40 and see how it goes. My own preference is to leave the grip / yoke in the same condition as when I got it, mainly because my restoration efforts would be very poor, particularly compared to someone like Visotka, who does an amazing job of restoration.

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Original Avro Anson control column has to be my favourite so far along with my relic Beaufort. 

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Welcome ProudKerman!

Certainly not a common sight and neither is a Beaufort!  Any pictures of the latter?  Is that really the original twine around the hand holds of the Annie yoke?

Martyn 

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It is original twine from what I can tell :) 

I'll have to try and dig up photos of it as they seem to have gone missing, it is very much a relic and I acquired it with other wreckage from the crash site to do up a memorial/tribute to the crew that were lost in the crash just haven't time to do up a board yet. 

Saw mention of American sticks above, i am searching for a stick to suit P-39 (B-5 from memory) and also Beaufighter (longshot) for projects. :) 

 

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ProudKerman, there's always B series grips on fleabay. Beaufighter stuff is a lot rarer but does crop up occasionally. SpitfireSpares might have something.

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ProudKerman,

Indeed you do need a B5 however, the ones fitted to the P-39 are unique in that they have the word 'Cannon' engraved behind/under the 'pickle button' on the top of the grip.  As martynp says above, they (non-true P-39) B-5's pop up on e-bay but they can be a bit pricey, especially when you add on postage and any import duties you might face!

GYD