Manchester Air and Space

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For anyone who has been here recently it has been pretty obvious what's going on, sadly this link seems to confirm it. MOSI tend to be pretty strong in their ideals and plans and not at all swayed by large donations of cash so it looks like the aircraft will be on their way soon. Strange as other airframes have been collected and never even exhibited. http://www.manchesterconfidential.co.uk/news/mosi-the-ordsall-chord-and-ditching-the-air-space-gallery
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Hopefully some of the airframes (the ones with strong Manchester connections) can stay locally. There should be room at Ringway's visitors centre and the AVRO Heritage centre at Woodford for the triplane, Avian and 707 at the very least. Wherever the Shackelton goes to it should remain under cover, I'd even accept it to be in pieces in the RAFM store at Stafford.
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The 707 would be ideal for Woodford actually and they have a decent sized building there. Does anyone 'in the know' know if it's ever been suggested? It's a real shame for the collection, it was probably my first introduction to aircraft at a young age. I remember being extremely bored by all the textile stuff and wowed by the trains and planes. It's a shame they've decided to focus on the smaller things.

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And there we have it - wonder if I'll get any apologies from all the people who carped at my comments on here some weeks ago about the parlous state of the museum and the future of the Shackleton? I won't hold my breath. It's a sorry business but one could see it coming from a proverbial mile. So what future for the Shackleton? Off to Cosford I would hope but if it does, where will it go? If it is doomed to sit outside after having been preserved intact for so long it really will be a tragedy.

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If it does have to move to Cosford let us hope that it can be stored undercover in one of the Tech Training School hangars until such time those hangars can be included in the museum collection.
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The Shackleton should be heading north of the border, of course. ;)

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Why? It's a machine designed and built in Manchester and one that spent most of its service life either at St.Mawgan, St.Eval or Ballykelly. Doesn't have any connection with Scotland other than the years it was based at Lossie as an AEW2.
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"...Doesn't have any connection with Scotland other than the years it was based at Lossie as an AEW2." So, in other words, it has a connection with Scotland. :eagerness: East Fortune are looking to put together a Cold War hangar, and a Shackleton makes a lot of sense in that context anyway. It seems like an obvious gap in their collection, especially given that they are a National Museum of Scotland outfit and their collection should therefore, in part, reflect on the aircraft that served up here. I trust you are bitter because you haven't been on the receiving end of a tidal wave of apologies over your MOSI predictions. :highly_amused:

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Why? It's a machine designed and built in Manchester and one that spent most of its service life either at St.Mawgan, St.Eval or Ballykelly. Doesn't have any connection with Scotland other than the years it was based at Lossie as an AEW2.
What colour is the sky on your planet? Scotland has more connection to the Shackleton than anywhere else apart from Manchester. First in service at RAF Kinloss and last in service at RAF Lossiemouth 1951 to 1991. 40 years continuous service. It is as appropriate to be in Scotland than anywhere else, even more so considering St Mawgan and Ballykelly said goodbye to their active Shackletons by 1971. Just because an individual airframe didn't serve it's full career in Scotland doesn't mean it can't be preserved there. When you go down that argument you are heading the way of the anorak spotter brigade.
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I think WH904 means the MOSI example specifically, but your comments certainly still stand.