Paul Allens Mig-29 For sale.

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Hi All,
Spotted this via :- http://www.facebook.com/WorldWarbirdNews So with this sale is the FHC restructuring or needing a little financial help and what is the future of the rest of the collection ? Considering the JU87 and the FW189 restorations I really hope that it is just restructuring as they wind down his many financial assets to concentrate on the FHC which ever it is we the aviation fan owe him a lot of thanks for preserving rare aircraft in flyable condition. RIP Mr Allen.

Geoff.

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For what it's worth, in Kermit Weeks' video tour of FHCAM, filmed earlier this year, he poses several questions to Adrian Hunt, the executive director of the FHCAM. Adrian Hunt commented that things are going forward as normal, since the passing of Paul Allen, that they've transitioned into a public charity following Paul Allen's passing, and that the funding they have today is the same as if Paul Allen were still alive. I don't think the MiG-29 fit the museum's concept going forward and it should garner a nice little sum of money to put towards other costs. A number of restoration projects ongoing around the world in addition to the Ju-87 and Fw-189 (including a Ju-88, He-111 and Betty bomber).

They are hosting an event in a couple weeks, for a select number of individuals (advanced ticket purchases only), to have the first up-close "sneak peak" of their restored Me-262, located at Arlington airport, along with a panel discussion about the restoration and insights into operating the aircraft. I believe taxi tests are expected to begin in the next month or two. Everything I've heard/read points to the Ju-87 being expected to be completed/flying as early as late quarter 2020.

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It was mentioned elsewhere that the Mig-29 is enormously expensive to operate, and it is the only aircraft that has generated multiple complaints from the surrounding area because it is so loud. So it isn't surprising that it would make the short list to leave the museum. Also in the video the museum mentions that there are not many pilots qualified to fly it. I do hope funding continues as normal so that the Ju-87, Fw-189, He-111/CASA 2.111 and the possible Ju-88 can be fully restored. The museum is earning respect from accomplishing what was considered impossible for rarer aircraft types.

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Good to see the prices for the "Sneak peek" are a reasonable $50.
I was afraid that something like that would be seen as a potential cash cow with a price that made it only available to the wealthy (like many vintage auto events).

I agree that while the MiG is a fun piece to have, (after all are there many similar vintage western front line fighters in private hands?) but it doesn't fit in with the bulk of the collection.
And even if you are well financed, why not save money where you can?

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I have some photos of the a/c when it came through Hong Kong, there was a little problem with the lack
of import/export permits as item of military equipment need an import/export permit, even if they don't
leave the ship

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I wouldn’t be surprised if the MiG-29 was tried as a ‘fast-jet pull’ to help draw visitors to FHCAM. The collection sees more visitors for its armour days than for its air events, so diversifying makes good sense. For the bigger picture, despite Stratolaunch being rationalised for Pegasus only launch, the FHCAM looks secure for the time being.

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Thought there would be more updates on the JU-87 as it's out in the open. Anyone have any news of recent progress?

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Thought there would be more updates on the JU-87 as it's out in the open. Anyone have any news of recent progress?

Photos from around July showed the beginnings of various systems and electrics installation. And the engine was supposed to have begun testing, but no word on that.
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Hi All,
Thanks for all the additional input..........:eagerness:

Geoff.

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Latest photos on FB show the Jumo 211 delivered and unpacked next to the aircraft. It’s a big piece of hardware. The 262 is confirmed as being one flight only.

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Latest photos on FB show the Jumo 211 delivered and unpacked next to the aircraft. It’s a big piece of hardware. The 262 is confirmed as being one flight only.

I guess the Jumo 211 engine passed testing and certification. Too bad there is no video of the testing.

https://www.facebook.com/flyingherit...1057402268622/

One flight for the Me-262? I hope there is an explanation at the preview event this month.

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Ill just have some Chocolat Neuhaus as well.:)

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I personally would like to hear it straight from the mouth of an FHCAM representative that the Me-262 is only going to be flown once, if that is truly the case. So-far the only mentioning of that, that I've seen, has come from the Warbird Digest website.

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One flight only ,, why spend all that money and time on it when there was maybe something else that would be better off having that input ?

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Hi All,
Maybe one flight only using the original engines ? then substitute for engines that power the other replicas ?

Geoff.