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By: - 18th January 2006 at 20:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
BCAM
Have you tried contacting the BCAM in Victoria BC Canada?
They just finished an Anson restoration last summer. I don't belive it was a MkII, however they may still have some drawings of use to you...Good Luck and the Halifax looks Great! Just wish something of that scale could happen on the west coast of Canada!
Just checked the BCAM web site - Their Anson is a MK II! Good Luck.
Neil Medcalf
By: - 18th January 2006 at 20:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
By: - 18th January 2006 at 21:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
You might like to try and find the Aeroplane Collection (Last heard of at Hooton Park in Cheshire) as I recall my family donating a collection of AVRO blue prints to the Northern Aircraft Preservation Society (TACs original name).
The prints were from a collection of momentos of my grandfather who was Works foreman at AVROs Newton Heath factory during WW2.
The collection of drawings certainly contained the wing jigs for the Lancaster, these being modified from Manchester jig drawings on the kitchen table by my grandfather. I recall that some Anson drawings were in the collection as well.
However I don't know if the drawings still exist (or TAC for that matter).
By: - 19th January 2006 at 00:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Are these of any use to you?
Taken at RAF Llanbadr in North Wales when I was on holiday.
By: - 19th January 2006 at 00:55 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
It is worth trying Avro Heritage at Woodford.
Avro Heritage Group
BAE Systems
Woodford
Stockport
SK7 1QR
There will be issues with letting plans go with regard to product liability but there is no reason these cannot be dealt with. I presume the Anson won't fly so there should be no problem. Even better, offer them stage by stage photographs for their archive.
By: - 19th January 2006 at 13:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Neil,
Thanks, I have been in ccontact with most of the Canadian Museums and the contact at BCAM is away until the weekend when, hopefully,he will contact me with some good news.
Deryck
By: - 19th January 2006 at 13:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Fouga,
Thanks for the suggestion, Greenwood is already working with us on this.
Deryck
By: - 19th January 2006 at 13:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Aeronut,
This sounds promising, I will attempt to follow it up.
Thanks
Deryck
By: - 19th January 2006 at 14:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi
Hi
Great work on the Halifax. One question will there be any pics available of the interior when finished. I hope it will not be like YAM's example were no pics of the interior have been forthcoming for many years. Some vets have been allowed inside but I have seen no pics posted anywhere. Good luck with the Anson and if its anything like the Halifax it will be a cracker.
Cheers
Phil
By: - 19th January 2006 at 17:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Deryck.
I was at the museum on Sunday to snap a few pictures of the Halifax. What a great job you guys have done!!
I also took a few pictures of the Anson. I hope you don't mind, but I thought I would just post them here instead of starting my own new thread. I understand the aircraft came from western Canada. Might you be able to tell us more about the identity of this aircraft?
Keep up the great work!
Mike
By: - 19th January 2006 at 18:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Mike didn't this come from wetaskiwin?
By: - 19th January 2006 at 18:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks BarnOwl,
Looks like a late Mark, 19, 20 or 21, with metal wings. I have forwarded them to the shop.
Deryck
By: - 19th January 2006 at 19:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Halibag Phil, There was no restriction on our taking any pictures of the interior when I was last there. The only restraint was the interior was not finished in time for the official "Unveiling". (Let's face it some of the exterior wasn't either!) I have taken Press folks through the interior to shoot stuff, the only restriction was they were not to publish prior to the official unveiling. Final plans were talking about video cameras in the interior for folks to see the layouts. If there is anything particular you want let me know. Deryck
By: - 19th January 2006 at 19:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Turretboy, Good shots! I am in Florida and have not been in the shop for a while, they seem to be moving along with the sorting out. The aircraft came from Wetaskiwin, I am not sure of the exact id. I can try to find out. We dismantled and packed up a Tutor for them and they shipped us the remains of the Anson. We have a Yukon sitting down in South America someplace and I hear rumours of a Tiger Moth and a Harvard, so we can use some more volunteers! Deryck
By: - 19th January 2006 at 19:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Peter,
Yes.
Deryck
By: - 19th January 2006 at 19:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Possibly the Harvard from Smith Falls?
By: - 19th January 2006 at 19:51 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Anson
A total of five Anson wings have been built in Canada to date, These are the example in Calgary( Calgary Aerospace Museum, Saskatoon (Western Development Museum) Alberta Aviation Museum, Edmonton and at Brandon( CATP Museum). I am sure that Calgary would be the place to start, as you can see what a job they did on building up the wings. I think it took them almost 15 years to do it.There was an article in a CAHS journal a few years ago about the restoration.
The Greenwood Anson also came from Wetaskawin, where there are at least three or pieces of left.
Most of the museums have taken a different approach with building the wings. Some have built outer wings to add on to cut center spars, while Calgary started from scratch with basic spars and built the complete wing up.As with all these aircraft, the identity is always a little suspect unless you find a plate.
MRP
By: - 19th January 2006 at 21:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi MRP, I am waiting for the guy I need at Calgary to get back to me. It sure sounds like it might be the place to start.
Thanks
Deryck
By: - 19th January 2006 at 22:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
MRP - excellent post. I think you've missed a 6th (not sure - I didn't know of any of the ones you've mentioned!) at Sidney, BC with BCAM, just finished recently. From talking to them they were looking at the 'cut spar' approach. (Note it was mentioned by Neil at the beguinning, but there are some great photos off from the aircraft's own page. Enjoy.
By: - 19th January 2006 at 23:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks Deryck
Hi
The only interior bits I still need are the top escape hatches interior and exterior if poss. Thanks to the wonderfull pictures from the likes of Turretboy, British Cannuk and others I have been able to sit and stare for hours on end. Great idea on making the interior available by video.
I myself have endevored to take longer building a model than you did the real thing :o
I am very very lazy though :)
Cheers
Phil
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By: Deryck - 18th January 2006 at 18:28
We, at the RCAF Memorial Museum at Trenton, Ontario, have just about finished the Halifax restoration after 10years and 4 months work and we are about to start on the restoration of an Anson II. Does anyone know of the location of any early model Anson drawings?
Someone thought the aircraft would take up less space if the wing was chainsawed into short lengths, so we urgently need main spar drawings. :mad:
I have received negative responses from IWM London, I am awaiting a response from IWM Duxford and the RAF Museum. I have tried all the Canadian options (the Mk II was a Mk I built in Canada with Jacobs engines and some other changes such as hydraulic u/c, heaters and less windows etc.) but thus far no luck. :(