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Guatemalan air force Ryan STM-2?

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Skyraider3D:

We supected a S. American sample also!

What criteria did you use to ID it so precisely? We are also interested to know it. Tks

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Skyraider3D:

Just to make an observation ck the U.S stars design in this picture. Photo Ryan. c. 1938
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7246/ryanst220kq3yq.jpg

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p.s Illustrated below the star design on a U.S Ryan ST. San Diego. c. 1938. Photo Ryan.
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7513/ryan1ez.jpg

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We supected a S. American sample also!

What criteria did you use to ID it so precisely? We are also interested to know it. Tks


Well to be honest it was a guess. I figured the aircraft was an STM-2. It doesn't have US Army titles on the bottom of the wings, so it's likely foreign. The only air forces I know that used the STM-2 were the Dutch and Guatemalan air forces. The wing markings match those of Guatemala.

http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/americas/guatemala/Guatemala-af-RyanSTM2.htm

PS. The six-sided stars are very unusual!!!

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FAG Ryans

Skyraider3D:

Rg! We are doing some more digging on the 6 point star. Tks!

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FAH 605

Vought F4U-5N FAH 605 on alert status at Toncontin Airport, Honduras. July 1976. Photo FVA via C/w.com

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Moroccan AF T-28 Fennecs

Pictured below is one of the X Moroccan AF T-28 Fennec samples confiscated at Ft. Lauderdale, Florida believed to be bound for Nicaragua also. Photo DPH via C/w.com

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p.s Reg ------>HR-228A

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Ecuador's Firsts Jets

Ecuador was one of the first latin american countries with Jets.

English Electric Canberra Mk-6 (1954)
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A classic Ryan STM Guatemalan AF (FAG) #31. Somewhere Guatemala. c.1939. Photo via E. Cassagneres.
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Very nice pictures, guys!

I am still waiting for my Latin American Air Wars & Aircraft book which was supposedly released a month ago. Again Ian Allan let me down... :(

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Skyraider 3D:

Tks!
we have s few more to show. Stick around!!

The book is a bit behind schedule..but it is coming out soon. The Ryan with the six-point-star appears to be a demo Ryan for a foreign customer.c.1938.

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Ah interesting! :)

PS. Do you know if any Razorback Thunderbolts found their way to Latin America?

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Skyraider3D:

We'll get bck to you with the P-47 "Razorbacks" question in 24 Hrs. Most of the P-47 Thunderbolts that came to the U.S fm Latin countries c.1970s were P-47D/P-47N models. Poss Brazil may have flown some during WW II.

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A Fokker 227 similar to the one below, Uruguayan AF (FAU) #571 crashed on the Chilean Andes c. Oct-1972. The sample below was used in the movie "ALIVE" c. 1992. East Coast USA. Photo Via DPH.
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/3886/fau5719tg.jpg

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Skyraider3D:

We did some digging about the P-47 Razorbacks in Latin America.

At least one sample was exported to the Bolivian AF. The earlier model P-47D AAF 42-8205. It never flew with Bolivian AF & ended-up as gate guardian Reg BAF 007. This particular sample came back to the U.S c.1970s and flies regularly in the U.S. It is on display at the Museum of Flight. Seattle. WA. Photo C. Gardner.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5390/p474282057hy.jpg

The second poss P-47 Razorback went to Brazil c. 1944. S/N 41-6037. Brazilian AF 4103. Ended-up in in a technical school in Brazil c. 1967. Ref. P-47 T-Bolt Book. The Final Chapter via D.P. Hagedorn. c. 1990s.

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Thanks!! :)

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Skyraider3D:

Pictured below is another Ryan STM with an alleged Guatemalan AF scheme. Picture c.1938 somewhere in St Diego, Calif during testing flights.
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8360/fagryan8vy.jpg

The criteria used by LAAHS.com to ID this particular aircraft as one of the Guatemalan AF samples is weak. It relies solely on the star diagram on the wings. In addition, none of these aircraft are shown in country showing any armament. We are still digging the origen of the 6 point star.

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Hmmm... it does seem to lack the USAAF striping on the rudder, but it's really hard to tell.

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SkyRaider3D:

The picture below shows a FAG Ryan #25 with a poss 6 point star. We are trying to get a better resolution of this picture to confirm it. In addition, it now appears that the 6 point star was used on FAG aircraft during pre- WW-II era and the 5 point after WW II. Photo FAG Archives c. 1939. TNT Honduras. via D.C

http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/8231/sispoints1gg.jpg