By: 12jaguar
- 12th January 2011 at 15:02Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
A quick update, here's the first of our newly cast and machined control column tops. We now have all the major components to fabricate 2 new control columns using original bases :)
Thanks for the link John, I had been searching to see what this portion consisted of?
Here is the photo of the fuselage section that is in France as per that link, it seems to be in two parts? and is from forward of the fin inclusive of the crew door and then 3 windows forward to under the faired over dorsal turret and the trailing edge of the wing?, its floor or lower fuselage has also been cut out.
Although the photo doesnt show the forward end of the French section it seems that it also covers most the length of the Dutch section, but perhaps extend deeper into the floor? (so they duplicate the same turret area?)
However together with the RAF Tail section they all apparantly combine to reference over 50% of the rear of the fuselage?
Quite encouraging!,
Its a lot of work to replicate, but other than the missing lower parts of the floor/bomb-bay, these sections would be excellent dimensional references, perhaps in some ways of far more value than drawings, and from the photos it could be assumed the same fuselage profile projects forward through the wing and up into the cockpit area providing a dimensional reference for much of the fuselage?
It would be great if the French section could be displayed in the RAF Museum with their tail section.
By: 12jaguar
- 12th January 2011 at 21:58Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Mark
All of these sections have been gone over with a fine tooth comb to ascertain the correct profile of the upper fuselage, and you're correct in your assumption that it extends into the cockpit area. Each section has it's own 'issues' as they've spent most of their life out in the open in distinctly agricultural conditions and of course were recovered from crashed aircraft. Therefore a average has been taken which when compared with best practice leads us to think we've now got it right :D
By: sopwith.7f1
- 13th January 2011 at 11:18Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi John
The wing/s were on a beach some where between Great Yarmouth & Cromer, there was a photo of them sticking up out of the sand, in Flypast many years ago, I think it was an article to do with surviving parts of extinct bombers.
Hope this helps.:)
By: Bruce
- 13th January 2011 at 13:48Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The beach there is often scoured in really bad weather. Thats the time that things like the Stirling come in. When the sandbar comes back it tends to take the other stuff out again.
A Roman salt works appeared in the same place a few years ago. Hadnt been seen before!
By: 12jaguar
- 23rd January 2011 at 19:43Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Chaps and chapesses
The Stirling Aircraft Project jhas finally moved from RAF Wyton although t too 2 full days and 6 lorry loads to transport all of the kit and artefacts. It'll probably take another 1-2 weekends to sort out where it all now needs to go and remember where it all is :rolleyes:
hopefully though we'll soon be back to work and making new parts and assemblies to post on here
By: TempestV
- 23rd January 2011 at 21:38Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Chaps and chapesses
The Stirling Aircraft Project jhas finally moved from RAF Wyton although t too 2 full days and 6 lorry loads to transport all of the kit and artefacts. It'll probably take another 1-2 weekends to sort out where it all now needs to go and remember where it all is :rolleyes:
hopefully though we'll soon be back to work and making new parts and assemblies to post on here
By: 12jaguar
- 31st January 2011 at 10:04Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Well we're now approaching end game with our presence at RAF Wyton. After a lot of hardwork the project has now relocated to our new workshop and we've nearly made some order out of chaos.
Whilst the MoD has been very good to us over the years, the constant upheaval and access problems for visitors has been a pain :rolleyes: We're now self contained and to a certain extent masters of our own destiny and our floor area is about 1 and 1/2 times bigger than what we had although storage is still an issue for some of the larger items. Anyway here's some photos of our new work area.
By: 12jaguar
- 31st January 2011 at 20:18Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Cees
In an earlier post I said "last one to a complete cockpit is a rotten egg", oh well it looks like it's us :o
The programme of work whilst we're still sorting out the fuselage design will be the seats (me) and the control columns and rudder pedals by the others, that should give us the major controls and should be useful progress. I'd dearly love to start on the fuselage, but there's a lot to get sorted out and costed before that time.
By: 12jaguar
- 24th February 2011 at 12:21Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
finally some progress:rolleyes:
Here's the 1st and 2nd pilots control column bases and torque tube from LK567 that's been stripped down. It didn't come apart without a fight and still needs cleaning up (the RH one has been started).
By: 12jaguar
- 22nd March 2011 at 08:58Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Morning all
Here's a progress update, with the 1st control column permanently assembled albeit with the control wheel slaved into position for effect. 2nd column to follow shortly ;)
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By: CeBro - 6th January 2011 at 17:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
John,
I believe Pino and Peter (new comic duo) have seen the French sections haven't they?
Cees
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By: 12jaguar - 6th January 2011 at 20:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Never a truer word spoken in jest :diablo:
I believe they did go and look at them, and they proved most useful
John
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By: 12jaguar - 12th January 2011 at 15:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
A quick update, here's the first of our newly cast and machined control column tops. We now have all the major components to fabricate 2 new control columns using original bases :)
John
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By: mark_pilkington - 12th January 2011 at 21:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks for the link John, I had been searching to see what this portion consisted of?
Here is the photo of the fuselage section that is in France as per that link, it seems to be in two parts? and is from forward of the fin inclusive of the crew door and then 3 windows forward to under the faired over dorsal turret and the trailing edge of the wing?, its floor or lower fuselage has also been cut out.
Although the photo doesnt show the forward end of the French section it seems that it also covers most the length of the Dutch section, but perhaps extend deeper into the floor? (so they duplicate the same turret area?)
However together with the RAF Tail section they all apparantly combine to reference over 50% of the rear of the fuselage?
Quite encouraging!,
Its a lot of work to replicate, but other than the missing lower parts of the floor/bomb-bay, these sections would be excellent dimensional references, perhaps in some ways of far more value than drawings, and from the photos it could be assumed the same fuselage profile projects forward through the wing and up into the cockpit area providing a dimensional reference for much of the fuselage?
It would be great if the French section could be displayed in the RAF Museum with their tail section.
Regards
Mark Pilkington
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By: 12jaguar - 12th January 2011 at 21:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Mark
All of these sections have been gone over with a fine tooth comb to ascertain the correct profile of the upper fuselage, and you're correct in your assumption that it extends into the cockpit area. Each section has it's own 'issues' as they've spent most of their life out in the open in distinctly agricultural conditions and of course were recovered from crashed aircraft. Therefore a average has been taken which when compared with best practice leads us to think we've now got it right :D
thanks for the encouragement
John
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By: sopwith.7f1 - 12th January 2011 at 23:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
stirling wing on beach
Did you guys ever recover the Stirling wing/wings that were on a beach near Yarmouth ?, they were pretty ropey & mostly burried in the sand.
Bob. T
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By: 12jaguar - 13th January 2011 at 08:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I don't think we've got anything that came from a crash near Yarmouth. How long ago where these on the beach?
John
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By: sopwith.7f1 - 13th January 2011 at 11:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi John
The wing/s were on a beach some where between Great Yarmouth & Cromer, there was a photo of them sticking up out of the sand, in Flypast many years ago, I think it was an article to do with surviving parts of extinct bombers.
Hope this helps.:)
Cheer's.
Bob. T
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By: Bruce - 13th January 2011 at 11:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
It was at Hemsby, blew in one dark night, and out again a few nights later.
Bruce
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By: 12jaguar - 13th January 2011 at 12:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
That's a shame :(
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By: sopwith.7f1 - 13th January 2011 at 13:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Did it get covered up again by the sand ?, as it was quite deeply embedded.
Bob. T
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By: Bruce - 13th January 2011 at 13:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The beach there is often scoured in really bad weather. Thats the time that things like the Stirling come in. When the sandbar comes back it tends to take the other stuff out again.
A Roman salt works appeared in the same place a few years ago. Hadnt been seen before!
Bruce
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By: Ross_McNeill - 13th January 2011 at 14:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I recall looking at this and have a note that If the wings were Stirling then a possible identity was EF494 on the night 8/9 Oct 1943.
Regards
Ross
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By: 12jaguar - 23rd January 2011 at 19:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Chaps and chapesses
The Stirling Aircraft Project jhas finally moved from RAF Wyton although t too 2 full days and 6 lorry loads to transport all of the kit and artefacts. It'll probably take another 1-2 weekends to sort out where it all now needs to go and remember where it all is :rolleyes:
hopefully though we'll soon be back to work and making new parts and assemblies to post on here
cheers
John
ps I'm going for a lie down now :diablo:
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By: TempestV - 23rd January 2011 at 21:38 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Good work Stirling team!
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By: 12jaguar - 31st January 2011 at 10:04 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Well we're now approaching end game with our presence at RAF Wyton. After a lot of hardwork the project has now relocated to our new workshop and we've nearly made some order out of chaos.
Whilst the MoD has been very good to us over the years, the constant upheaval and access problems for visitors has been a pain :rolleyes: We're now self contained and to a certain extent masters of our own destiny and our floor area is about 1 and 1/2 times bigger than what we had although storage is still an issue for some of the larger items. Anyway here's some photos of our new work area.
John
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By: CeBro - 31st January 2011 at 17:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi John,
Good to see things getting sorted and now get on with that Stirling;)
What's the next step as soon as the workshop has been finished?
Cees
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By: 12jaguar - 31st January 2011 at 20:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Cees
In an earlier post I said "last one to a complete cockpit is a rotten egg", oh well it looks like it's us :o
The programme of work whilst we're still sorting out the fuselage design will be the seats (me) and the control columns and rudder pedals by the others, that should give us the major controls and should be useful progress. I'd dearly love to start on the fuselage, but there's a lot to get sorted out and costed before that time.
Progress as always will be posted on here
John
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By: 12jaguar - 24th February 2011 at 12:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
finally some progress:rolleyes:
Here's the 1st and 2nd pilots control column bases and torque tube from LK567 that's been stripped down. It didn't come apart without a fight and still needs cleaning up (the RH one has been started).
John
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By: 12jaguar - 22nd March 2011 at 08:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Morning all
Here's a progress update, with the 1st control column permanently assembled albeit with the control wheel slaved into position for effect. 2nd column to follow shortly ;)
John