By: 12jaguar
- 14th November 2017 at 20:56Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Simon
The Mk IV nose is much different to the one in the kit. For a start there are no doors behind the Observers seat, the bulkhead itself is truncated to about half its height and there's a canvas strap which acts as a backrest in place of where the doors are. The compartment beneath is not a whole lot different from the kit or indeed from a Mk III, and the Mk IV could be used in a conventional bombing role if needs be. I haven't got any photos to hand but if you PM me your email address I'll see what I can dig out.
By: jamesinnewcastl
- 14th November 2017 at 20:57Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi
Some info for you, looks like the bomb aimer position is unaffected, just a new seat up front with a fabulous view! As John says there are no doors, they wouldn't have had any function.
Looks like there is a map reading table in the model. Interestingly there is no obvious bomb sight?
By: lazlo
- 5th December 2017 at 10:56Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Fantastic work John. I am really seeing this beast taking shape now. I look forward to visiting and sitting in that pilot's seat one day. Steve (Lazlo Ferran)
By: 12jaguar
- 14th January 2018 at 09:40Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Happy New Year all, our first post of 2018
Just to prove that we've not been in hibernation during the dark winter months, we've been working on some of the finer details to complete the main instrument panel. Cliff has been working on the u/c Indicator Switch which energises the u/c position indicator and I assume is there to prevent the lights drawing down battery power after shutdown. The other switch is the U/c Master Switch which energises the landing gear circuit which as you may be aware is electrically actuated on a Stirling.
The use of 'HAND GEAR' at the off position seems confusing but the only explanation I have is that in that position it de-energises the circuit allowing for manual operation in an emergency.
Next areas to be worked on are the 2 sloping panels at the base of the panel which have the prop feathering switches, airscrew de-icer and booster coli switches. the only remaining parts to fit to the panel are the toggle to jettison all the stores and we need a rubber stop watch holder, anyone got any ideas how the former is installed and does anyone have leads on the latter which I know are extremely rare
By: jamesinnewcastl
- 14th January 2018 at 11:50Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi John
Some great and dedicated work there!
I saw a watch holder go past on ebay a while ago - no interest shown. Why not update your wants list on your web site? One of the SBA power suppy units went past a while ago too, but I thought that you had one of those?
I suspect though that you will eventually get all the parts you need!
By: 12jaguar
- 14th January 2018 at 15:26Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks James
we have got an SBA unit although it could do with a tidy up. We will have to update our wants list, just a case of working out which ones are the priority
By: 12jaguar
- 3rd February 2018 at 18:22Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi all
A productive day today, with the first of the two control column fwd stop assys more-or-less completed. Each one has more 20 separate parts comprising of cast, folded and extruded sections. The only remaining parts needed for this one (1st pilots') are 4 off lugs which the control column lock attaches to. One more to go then it's the 4 off footrest assemblies to make
By: 12jaguar
- 25th June 2018 at 18:49Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
slow and steady wins the race :)
following on from my last post, the P1 fwd control column stop is now permanently installed and painted with P2 to follow next week. The 2 bare metal channels attached to the box are the first parts of the rudder pedal footrests (only 4 to make of those LOL). I'm 95% certain of the construction of these based on photos looking down from above and upwards from the Bomb Aimers compartment. the latter are always in shadow and it's hard to define what's there but we're pretty much on top of the design now.
Any way without further ado please see the pics below showing the P1 stop assy.
By: Trolly Aux
- 26th June 2018 at 08:41Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
superb ! although to look at it you would not think so there is a hell of a lot of work gone in to this, fantastic always look forward to the updates, thank you.
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By: 12jaguar - 14th November 2017 at 20:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Simon
The Mk IV nose is much different to the one in the kit. For a start there are no doors behind the Observers seat, the bulkhead itself is truncated to about half its height and there's a canvas strap which acts as a backrest in place of where the doors are. The compartment beneath is not a whole lot different from the kit or indeed from a Mk III, and the Mk IV could be used in a conventional bombing role if needs be. I haven't got any photos to hand but if you PM me your email address I'll see what I can dig out.
John
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By: jamesinnewcastl - 14th November 2017 at 20:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi
Some info for you, looks like the bomb aimer position is unaffected, just a new seat up front with a fabulous view! As John says there are no doors, they wouldn't have had any function.
Looks like there is a map reading table in the model. Interestingly there is no obvious bomb sight?
Cheers
James
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By: jamesinnewcastl - 14th November 2017 at 22:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
If you want to put some troops in.....
By: Anonymous - 15th November 2017 at 11:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks John - I'll drop you an e-mail.
regards
Simon
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By: 12jaguar - 15th November 2017 at 14:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
replied :)
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By: lazlo - 5th December 2017 at 10:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Fantastic work John. I am really seeing this beast taking shape now. I look forward to visiting and sitting in that pilot's seat one day. Steve (Lazlo Ferran)
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By: 12jaguar - 5th December 2017 at 13:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Steve
And you'd be more than welcome to
John
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By: TEXANTOMCAT - 5th December 2017 at 15:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Superb work chaps - is it time for an updated 'wants list' for the forumites who might be able to help?
ATB
TT
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By: TEXANTOMCAT - 5th December 2017 at 17:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
And as a PS spotted this by chance! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WW2-VERY-RARE-RAF-Stirling-Bomber-BF383-Rear-Gunners-Door-Crash-Relic/112670906381?hash=item1a3bb5980d:g:UqQAAOSwI8laCHI7
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By: 12jaguar - 5th December 2017 at 17:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
ouch, bit outside our remit but an interesting artefact.
Good idea TT, I'll have a think about our shopping list and post something soon
John
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By: 12jaguar - 14th January 2018 at 09:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Happy New Year all, our first post of 2018
Just to prove that we've not been in hibernation during the dark winter months, we've been working on some of the finer details to complete the main instrument panel. Cliff has been working on the u/c Indicator Switch which energises the u/c position indicator and I assume is there to prevent the lights drawing down battery power after shutdown. The other switch is the U/c Master Switch which energises the landing gear circuit which as you may be aware is electrically actuated on a Stirling.
The use of 'HAND GEAR' at the off position seems confusing but the only explanation I have is that in that position it de-energises the circuit allowing for manual operation in an emergency.
Next areas to be worked on are the 2 sloping panels at the base of the panel which have the prop feathering switches, airscrew de-icer and booster coli switches. the only remaining parts to fit to the panel are the toggle to jettison all the stores and we need a rubber stop watch holder, anyone got any ideas how the former is installed and does anyone have leads on the latter which I know are extremely rare
John
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By: jamesinnewcastl - 14th January 2018 at 11:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi John
Some great and dedicated work there!
I saw a watch holder go past on ebay a while ago - no interest shown. Why not update your wants list on your web site? One of the SBA power suppy units went past a while ago too, but I thought that you had one of those?
I suspect though that you will eventually get all the parts you need!
Cheers
James
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By: 12jaguar - 14th January 2018 at 15:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks James
we have got an SBA unit although it could do with a tidy up. We will have to update our wants list, just a case of working out which ones are the priority
John
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By: CeBro - 15th January 2018 at 08:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The rubber stopwatchholders are available as replicas these days IIRC.
Nice update John,
Cees
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By: Avro Avian - 15th January 2018 at 08:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
For the watch holder, if you are feeling flush with cash:
http://www.aerovintagespares.com/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eaerovintagespares%2ecom%2favspares%2fcopy_of_10H_10A_-_Radio%2ehtml&WD=holder&PN=copy_of_copy_of_6A_269-B_-_Rubber_watch_holder__%2ehtml%23a2_21509#a2_21509
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By: 12jaguar - 3rd February 2018 at 18:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi all
A productive day today, with the first of the two control column fwd stop assys more-or-less completed. Each one has more 20 separate parts comprising of cast, folded and extruded sections. The only remaining parts needed for this one (1st pilots') are 4 off lugs which the control column lock attaches to. One more to go then it's the 4 off footrest assemblies to make
John
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By: 12jaguar - 25th June 2018 at 18:49 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
slow and steady wins the race :)
following on from my last post, the P1 fwd control column stop is now permanently installed and painted with P2 to follow next week. The 2 bare metal channels attached to the box are the first parts of the rudder pedal footrests (only 4 to make of those LOL). I'm 95% certain of the construction of these based on photos looking down from above and upwards from the Bomb Aimers compartment. the latter are always in shadow and it's hard to define what's there but we're pretty much on top of the design now.
Any way without further ado please see the pics below showing the P1 stop assy.
John
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By: Trolly Aux - 26th June 2018 at 08:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
superb ! although to look at it you would not think so there is a hell of a lot of work gone in to this, fantastic always look forward to the updates, thank you.
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By: 12jaguar - 26th June 2018 at 18:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks TA, it all takes time but we're getting there. There's plenty of other areas being worked on at the moment, just not quite ready to report yet
John
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By: CeBro - 27th June 2018 at 08:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Wonderful as always John.
Cheers
Cees