By: Ian Sayer
- 26th May 2011 at 11:22Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks Airfixtwin. So we did do a flypast before coming in! Thanks anywaty Cherry Ripe. Does anyone have the registration marks for the Tristar that landed during the 87 show?
By: Airfixtwin
- 26th May 2011 at 19:59Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I new I had this somewhere..and actually got most of the aircraft in the shot..lol
The Tristar that landed at the Aldergrove 1987 airshow.
BR on the nose door , which makes it G-BHBR I think?
By: G101372
- 27th May 2011 at 11:34Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
1987 Show
I can confirm that Tristar GBHBR was present that day. The Catalina pictured was GBLSC and the Cub on the truck landing was GBLMR.
Anyone know the Triplane I have listed, the FW190 replica, Pilatus P2, the Gazelle and the 4 Wessex please?
More Concorde detail for those that wish it:
LHR-BEL leg, was off chocks at 1253 and airbourne at 1304
It flew much quicker that the normal planes used on the route even with the diversion down the Irish Sea so we could all go supersonic. We did M 1.01, some 670 mph given an outside temp of -50 C and some 35,000'
Hence I thought we had to hold mainly due to being early for the normal slot time. If the Red Arrows were doing their bit, i know not. Landing was at 1402 and on stand at 1407.
As for us all being asked if we wanted to go supersonic, i am am very surprised and certainly don't recall that. Why would anyone say no? The flightplan up the Irish Sea was already filed so it was never going to be different!
I am sure we did no flyby at the begining of the show. We certainly did at the end. A 'normal' take off (off chocks at 1818 and airbourne at 1834).
We did a circuit and the then a flyby. Towards mid runway the reheat was switched on (quite an experience) and then we climbed away, back down the Irish Sea peaking at M 1.02. Landing at LHR was at 1920 and on stand remarkably at 1922 according to my notes!
The only other detail I have about the outbound flight from Heathrow was that the Capt was Gunston and the 1st Off an M.Bannister.
By: Ian Sayer
- 27th May 2011 at 12:13Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks for that Graham. Well I think the invitation to fly supersonic was meant as a joke!
You may remember that there was a party of journalists on board. One of them was Christopher Wain, the ITN Defence correspondent. As I recall he was a friend or acquaintance of the first officer and had been invited to sit in the jump seat.
After we had landed he told me the story about running below the permitted fuel level for the alternate and that the Red Arrows had been a bit late with their routine. This account went round the other journalists and they discussed the possibility of doing a story on it later that evening but , in the end, nobody went with it.
By: joe90
- 14th July 2011 at 22:12Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Aldergrove Concorde
Sadly my photo boxes yielded no photos of Concorde, nor the A-10 pair that I remember from the 1987 show. Those photos must have been discarded at some point. Sorry.
My shaking 10-year-old hands did record this image of Ajax which I unearthed. The girl under the nose appears to be holding a Wellworths carrier-bag.
A little off the Thread theme, but you may be interested to note that the nose of 'AJAX' is now at Brooklands Museum. 'SUPERB', which did its last operational flight from Aldergrove is the only intact Vanguard/Merhantman and also resides at Brooklands
So, after much digging I have got hold of the newspapers (specifically the Belfast Telegraph and the Newsletter) from the day of the show.
No photos of Concorde, only a photo of a chap landing his Piper Cub on a truck - I remember that - and a long article telling us that the airshow meant lots of delays for holiday makers, as well as the Spanish Air Traffic Controller strike that was due on the same day. A short list of visiting aircraft mentions the Red Arrows and various other RAF types.
Once I get a chance I will scan the front page of the Belfast Telegraph and post it here.
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By: Ian Sayer - 26th May 2011 at 11:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks Airfixtwin. So we did do a flypast before coming in! Thanks anywaty Cherry Ripe. Does anyone have the registration marks for the Tristar that landed during the 87 show?
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By: Airfixtwin - 26th May 2011 at 19:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I new I had this somewhere..and actually got most of the aircraft in the shot..lol
The Tristar that landed at the Aldergrove 1987 airshow.
BR on the nose door , which makes it G-BHBR I think?
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By: Ian Sayer - 27th May 2011 at 08:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks Airfixtwin. Much appreciated
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By: G101372 - 27th May 2011 at 11:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
1987 Show
I can confirm that Tristar GBHBR was present that day. The Catalina pictured was GBLSC and the Cub on the truck landing was GBLMR.
Anyone know the Triplane I have listed, the FW190 replica, Pilatus P2, the Gazelle and the 4 Wessex please?
More Concorde detail for those that wish it:
LHR-BEL leg, was off chocks at 1253 and airbourne at 1304
It flew much quicker that the normal planes used on the route even with the diversion down the Irish Sea so we could all go supersonic. We did M 1.01, some 670 mph given an outside temp of -50 C and some 35,000'
Hence I thought we had to hold mainly due to being early for the normal slot time. If the Red Arrows were doing their bit, i know not. Landing was at 1402 and on stand at 1407.
As for us all being asked if we wanted to go supersonic, i am am very surprised and certainly don't recall that. Why would anyone say no? The flightplan up the Irish Sea was already filed so it was never going to be different!
I am sure we did no flyby at the begining of the show. We certainly did at the end. A 'normal' take off (off chocks at 1818 and airbourne at 1834).
We did a circuit and the then a flyby. Towards mid runway the reheat was switched on (quite an experience) and then we climbed away, back down the Irish Sea peaking at M 1.02. Landing at LHR was at 1920 and on stand remarkably at 1922 according to my notes!
The only other detail I have about the outbound flight from Heathrow was that the Capt was Gunston and the 1st Off an M.Bannister.
Graham
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By: Ian Sayer - 27th May 2011 at 12:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks for that Graham. Well I think the invitation to fly supersonic was meant as a joke!
You may remember that there was a party of journalists on board. One of them was Christopher Wain, the ITN Defence correspondent. As I recall he was a friend or acquaintance of the first officer and had been invited to sit in the jump seat.
After we had landed he told me the story about running below the permitted fuel level for the alternate and that the Red Arrows had been a bit late with their routine. This account went round the other journalists and they discussed the possibility of doing a story on it later that evening but , in the end, nobody went with it.
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By: Cherry Ripe - 12th July 2011 at 11:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Corncode bookmark
I have just opened an old and battered copy of French Military Aviation by Paul A Jackson and look what fell-out....
Admittedly it is a rubbish photo but I am pleased that I have found it!
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By: Ian Sayer - 12th July 2011 at 12:05 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Cherry bRipe. Is this from the 87 show?
Ian
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By: Cherry Ripe - 13th July 2011 at 13:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Ian,
Yes it's the 1987 show. Sorry, I should have noted that in the text.
Is that you waving? :)
--
Andrew
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By: Ian Sayer - 13th July 2011 at 13:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes Andrew. Wanted to get off!!
Ian:)
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By: joe90 - 14th July 2011 at 22:12 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Aldergrove Concorde
A little off the Thread theme, but you may be interested to note that the nose of 'AJAX' is now at Brooklands Museum. 'SUPERB', which did its last operational flight from Aldergrove is the only intact Vanguard/Merhantman and also resides at Brooklands
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By: belfastknox - 22nd August 2014 at 21:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
i have a couple of photos inside Concorde and one out side I was on Concorde that day, link to photo on the day https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=photos+of+concord+in+ulster+show+1987&espv=2&tbm=isch&imgil=c1opCitOTQA9HM%253A%253Bxw9yZiC29a1hcM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fforum.keypublishing.com%25252Fshowthread.php%25253F78288-Aldergrove-Air-Fair-22nd-August-1987-Concorde-Flypast&source=iu&usg=__A8RdeUMxNcQl5CL-DGaN_tvVSu4%3D&sa=X&ei=bqr3U9bJF_PH7AaqqoDgAQ&ved=0CCUQ9QEwAQ&biw=1440&bih=785#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=c1opCitOTQA9HM%253A%3Bxw9yZiC29a1hcM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fforum.keypublishing.com%252Fattachment.php%253Fattachmentid%253D197343%2526d%253D1310467945%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fforum.keypublishing.com%252Fshowthread.php%253F78288-Aldergrove-Air-Fair-22nd-August-1987-Concorde-Flypast%3B2821%3B1919 [email]belfastbobknox@googlemail.com[/email]